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BlindTiresias

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145. Ok:
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:27 PM
Sep 2014

Here is the quoted text for the eight hour day movement:

"In the United States, Philadelphia carpenters went on strike in 1791 for the ten-hour day. By the 1830s, this had become a general demand. In 1835, workers in Philadelphia organized the first general strike in North America, led by Irish coal heavers. Their banners read, From 6 to 6, ten hours work and two hours for meals.[7] Labor movement publications called for an eight-hour day as early as 1836. Boston ship carpenters, although not unionized, achieved an eight-hour day in 1842.

In 1864, the eight-hour day quickly became a central demand of the Chicago labor movement. The Illinois legislature passed a law in early 1867 granting an eight-hour day but had so many loopholes that it was largely ineffective. A city-wide strike that began on May 1, 1867 shut down the city's economy for a week before collapsing. On June 25, 1868, Congress passed an eight-hour law for federal employees[8][9] which was also of limited effectiveness. (On May 19, 1869, Grant signed a National Eight Hour Law Proclamation).[10]

In August 1866, the National Labor Union at Baltimore passed a resolution that said, "The first and great necessity of the present to free labour of this country from capitalist slavery, is the passing of a law by which eight hours shall be the normal working day in all States of the American Union. We are resolved to put forth all our strength until this glorious result is achieved."

During the 1870s, eight hours became a central demand, especially among labor organizers, with a network of Eight-Hour Leagues which held rallies and parades. A hundred thousand workers in New York City struck and won the eight-hour day in 1872, mostly for building trades workers. In Chicago, Albert Parsons became recording secretary of the Chicago Eight-Hour League in 1878, and was appointed a member of a national eight-hour committee in 1880.

At its convention in Chicago in 1884, the Federation of Organized Trades and Labor Unions resolved that "eight hours shall constitute a legal day's labour from and after May 1, 1886, and that we recommend to labour organizations throughout this jurisdiction that they so direct their laws as to conform to this resolution by the time named."

The leadership of the Knights of Labor, under Terence V. Powderly, rejected appeals to join the movement as a whole, but many local Knights assemblies joined the strike call including Chicago, Cincinnati and Milwaukee. On May 1, 1886, Albert Parsons, head of the Chicago Knights of Labor, with his wife Lucy Parsons and two children, led 80,000 people down Michigan Avenue, Chicago, in what is regarded as the first modern May Day Parade, in support of the eight-hour day. In the next few days they were joined nationwide by 350,000 workers who went on strike at 1,200 factories, including 70,000 in Chicago, 45,000 in New York, 32,000 in Cincinnati, and additional thousands in other cities. Some workers gained shorter hours (eight or nine) with no reduction in pay; others accepted pay cuts with the reduction in hours.
Artist impression of the bomb explosion in Haymarket Square

On May 3, 1886, August Spies, editor of the Arbeiter-Zeitung (Workers Newspaper), spoke at a meeting of 6,000 workers, and afterwards many of them moved down the street to harass strikebreakers at the McCormick plant in Chicago. The police arrived, opened fire, and killed four people, wounding many more. At a subsequent rally on May 4 to protest this violence, a bomb exploded at the Haymarket Square. Hundreds of labour activists were rounded up and the prominent labour leaders arrested, tried, convicted, and executed giving the movement its first martyrs. On June 26, 1893 Illinois Governor John Peter Altgeld set the remaining leader free, and granted full pardons to all those tried claiming they were innocent of the crime for which they had been tried and the hanged men had been the victims of "hysteria, packed juries and a biased judge".

The American Federation of Labor, meeting in St Louis in December 1888, set May 1, 1890 as the day that American workers should work no more than eight hours. The International Workingmen's Association (Second International), meeting in Paris in 1889, endorsed the date for international demonstrations, thus starting the international tradition of May Day.

The United Mine Workers won an eight-hour day in 1898.

The Building Trades Council (BTC) of San Francisco, under the leadership of P.H. McCarthy, won the eight-hour day in 1900 when the BTC unilaterally declared that its members would work only eight hours a day for $3 a day. When the mill resisted, the BTC began organizing mill workers; the employers responded by locking out 8,000 employees throughout the Bay Area. The BTC, in return, established a union planing mill from which construction employers could obtain supplies — or face boycotts and sympathy strikes if they did not. The mill owners went to arbitration, where the union won the eight-hour day, a closed shop for all skilled workers, and an arbitration panel to resolve future disputes. In return, the union agreed to refuse to work with material produced by non-union planing mills or those that paid less than the Bay Area employers.

By 1905, the eight-hour day was widely installed in the printing trades – see International Typographical Union (section) – but the vast majority of Americans worked 12-14 hour days.

On January 5, 1914, the Ford Motor Company took the radical step of doubling pay to $5 a day and cut shifts from nine hours to eight, moves that were not popular with rival companies, although seeing the increase in Ford's productivity, and a significant increase in profit margin (from $30 million to $60 million in two years), most soon followed suit.[11][12][13][14]

In the summer of 1915, amid increased labor demand for World War I, a series of strikes demanding the eight-hour day began in Bridgeport, Connecticut. They were so successful that they spread throughout the Northeast.[15]

The United States Adamson Act in 1916 established an eight-hour day, with additional pay for overtime, for railroad workers. This was the first federal law that regulated the hours of workers in private companies. The United States Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the Act in Wilson v. New, 243 U.S. 332 (1917).

The eight-hour day might have been realized for many working people in the U.S. in 1937, when what became the Fair Labor Standards Act (29 U.S. Code Chapter 8) was first proposed under the New Deal. As enacted, the act applied to industries whose combined employment represented about twenty percent of the U.S. labor force. In those industries, it set the maximum workweek at 40 hours,[16] but provided that employees working beyond 40 hours a week would receive additional overtime bonus salaries.[17]"


This overwhelmingly shows organized labor as a prerequisite to influence state action and policy. If you want a summary of labor organization, ideology, and the new deal that is a much larger writeup and I'd probably just rather find a video that explains it.

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10 Reasons to Hate Capitalism [View all] ZombieHorde Sep 2014 OP
I don't need more reasons. Laffy Kat Sep 2014 #1
What's your preferred economic system? MineralMan Sep 2014 #2
The native American economic system seemed OK. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #3
See, the reason I ask is that simply destroying a global MineralMan Sep 2014 #20
Step one: turn as many against the system as possible. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #70
I've had a worker owned business since 1974. MineralMan Sep 2014 #23
I think they call that capitalism... brooklynite Sep 2014 #57
I think NJCher Sep 2014 #83
Yes, and neighborhood cooperatives operate differently from State-Run businesses brooklynite Sep 2014 #111
Except there's no capital nt Depaysement Sep 2014 #85
Of course there's capital brooklynite Sep 2014 #112
I've had several one-person businesses. MineralMan Sep 2014 #116
Absolutely it's capitalism... brooklynite Sep 2014 #161
That's retention . . . Depaysement Sep 2014 #154
I wouldn't mind starting my own hospice. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #66
A noble goal. There is an eight-bed hospice MineralMan Sep 2014 #117
It's entrepreneurial capitalism as opposed to institutional, corporate, oligarchic types. immoderate Sep 2014 #105
That only works locally and tribally, much like anarchism itself. Warpy Sep 2014 #69
I also favor moving in that direction while we try to figure something else out. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #73
+1 TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #197
How does this work/what does it mean? Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #99
Private property is the construct we currently use. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #102
Make it Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #103
Just like there are different ways to do private property, ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #108
That doesn't answer the questions though Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #110
You can criticize capitalism without offering alternatives leftstreet Sep 2014 #6
Of course you can, but replacing it will require a definition MineralMan Sep 2014 #16
Restricting profits doesn't 'shut off the economy' n/t leftstreet Sep 2014 #19
Nor does it end capitalism. MineralMan Sep 2014 #21
If profits are eliminated/restricted..it's no longer capitalism n/t leftstreet Sep 2014 #22
Ah...eliminated, yes. Restricted, no. MineralMan Sep 2014 #26
Worker Self Directed Enterprises BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #31
OK. Here's what you do: MineralMan Sep 2014 #34
They already exist BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #36
OK. If they're such a good idea, then why hasn't MineralMan Sep 2014 #39
Lots of reasons, really. BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #43
Dude, it's already been done 2banon Sep 2014 #109
'Eliminate profits and you're out of business, pretty much' leftstreet Sep 2014 #49
Restricting or redirecting profits is more pollyanna nonsense BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #24
Not a valid comparison on so many levels. MineralMan Sep 2014 #30
LOL like God...Capitalists provide thou Lumber leftstreet Sep 2014 #47
I agree with you, but I also enjoy being challenged. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #74
Maybe something like this? Edim Sep 2014 #52
Mondragon Corp. is a Cooperative-started up in 1956 in Basque Region and is very successful today 2banon Sep 2014 #104
Hybrid socialist capitalist system such as we see in enlightned social democracies (we had it in the grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #166
You are correct BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #172
Capitalism for high competition industries (like a bunch of shoe stores) socialize anything that grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #205
+1 TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #198
One other nice thing about places like Cuba, Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #4
Better Dead than Red, eh? [n/t] Maedhros Sep 2014 #5
I love capitalism wyldwolf Sep 2014 #7
Regulated capitalism BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #9
but it doesn't have to be wyldwolf Sep 2014 #13
Doesn't have to be? BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #15
well, ok, here we go wyldwolf Sep 2014 #29
I point you to trends in the EU and US (and Canada to some extent) BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #33
I agree that "things are getting less regulated." wyldwolf Sep 2014 #37
yeah and the drive to re-regulate will be thwarted BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #40
the drive to end capitalism would be thwarted more. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #42
It is based off of historical evidence and what is currently happening. BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #44
there have been points in history where capitalism has been re-regulated. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #48
Eh, I wouldn't be too sure on dodd-frank BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #50
I'm completely sure that it regulates things that were not regulated before wyldwolf Sep 2014 #54
You need certain conditions for re-regulation to be a thing BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #64
Did you just make that list up? wyldwolf Sep 2014 #67
No that is what greatly assisted the last great reining in of capital BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #72
Link? wyldwolf Sep 2014 #76
really man? BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #128
Really man? Show us in your wiki links anything that remotely resembles what you said: wyldwolf Sep 2014 #129
Dodd-frank is not re-regulation BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #131
Did you link(s) mention Dodd Frank? This is a prime example of you avoiding the conversation wyldwolf Sep 2014 #134
YOU mentioned dodd-frank BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #136
but YOU quoted links that purported to support your position and now you refuse to quote them wyldwolf Sep 2014 #138
90% of the eight hour day link BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #141
but you gave links to support the following quote of yours: wyldwolf Sep 2014 #142
Ok: BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #145
that says nothing resembling what you said. Let me guess... you know what the writer meant to write. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #146
Uh BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #147
here's what I'm expecting your links to prove: wyldwolf Sep 2014 #148
Well my point is that BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #149
but that isn't the point you originally set out to prove wyldwolf Sep 2014 #150
yes it is? BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #151
No it isn't? wyldwolf Sep 2014 #152
Uh BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #153
uh? wyldwolf Sep 2014 #155
Yeah, so lets go back to dodd-frank shall we? BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #156
how about we stick to the subject (I don't care about social democrats in the EU) wyldwolf Sep 2014 #157
I did BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #159
you did not wyldwolf Sep 2014 #160
You cited dodd-frank as re-regulation BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #163
yes I did. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #164
Excuse me jumping in here. It's hard to find the original in this subthread. Some questions: freshwest Sep 2014 #183
Yes, all of those are regulations and re-regulations wyldwolf Sep 2014 #184
The general trajectory has not been towards increased regulation since the 80's BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #188
And that is yet a NEW argument from you in this thread. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #189
No that is a continuation of my statement that capitalism trends towards de-regulation? BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #191
where else have you said "The general trajectory has not been towards increased regulation since... wyldwolf Sep 2014 #194
...looks like this leftstreet Sep 2014 #17
You gotta unmuzzle it sometime BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #18
Then why don't you marry it? ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #77
Considering how successful my wife has been in her business I think I did Marry it wyldwolf Sep 2014 #93
Ha! nt ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #95
This. Jamaal510 Sep 2014 #175
Incoming Pollyannas BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #8
All you should need is 1 reason. Taitertots Sep 2014 #10
Very good. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #78
Just regulate it like SWEDEN! BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #11
“The comfort of the rich depends upon an abundant supply of the poor.” ― Voltaire Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #12
So WHAT if you have to keep re-regulating it! BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #14
Big One: Uncontrolled Capitalism can lead to a Dark Ages AZ Progressive Sep 2014 #25
Too late BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #27
I like Capitalism. Throd Sep 2014 #28
most people here do. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #32
Lol BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #35
Lol wyldwolf Sep 2014 #41
Could be said of every system ever BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #46
Who are you to determine what a valid argument is? wyldwolf Sep 2014 #51
Yes, people benefit from systems. BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #53
ok, sure wyldwolf Sep 2014 #56
Except I wasn't saying that a system has to be perfect BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #61
Quote the post where I said you can't criticize it wyldwolf Sep 2014 #62
If that wasn't your point BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #63
Quote the post where it was even implied wyldwolf Sep 2014 #65
Unstated conclusion in my estimation BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #71
You can't quote a post wyldwolf Sep 2014 #75
Ok BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #121
that IS my point. Why you chose to argue if for several hours is a mystery. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #123
Ok BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #124
what you're doing is refusing to accept people might actually LIKE capitalism... wyldwolf Sep 2014 #127
Incorrect BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #130
absolutely correct - the proof is in the thread wyldwolf Sep 2014 #132
What? BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #135
so that's where you're going with this? LOL wyldwolf Sep 2014 #137
Yeah I'm seriously confused. BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #139
Yes you are, we can agree on that. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #140
You won & your opponent can't admit defeat so they argue in circles. U4ikLefty Sep 2014 #167
^ this ^ defacto7 Sep 2014 #179
If you call 'winning' changing the topic and ignoring points every time he was in a corner... wyldwolf Sep 2014 #185
gross misrepresentation BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #187
perfect illustration wyldwolf Sep 2014 #190
What? BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #192
What? wyldwolf Sep 2014 #193
I'm white ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #84
I never said you had to like it. wyldwolf Sep 2014 #90
That is true. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #92
That's fair. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #81
The only problem is that capitalism just isn't that into you Taitertots Sep 2014 #82
It doesn't have to be. Throd Sep 2014 #114
If you want to claim that anything that is good is a benefit, than everything that is bad is damage Taitertots Sep 2014 #115
That assumes they would not be impoverished under alternate systems. Throd Sep 2014 #118
?? BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #120
Can't argue with that Throd Sep 2014 #125
It has an impact on the wealth disparity BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #126
Now you're talking about a certain type of Capitalism I don't support. Throd Sep 2014 #133
Yes BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #143
Billions of the world's poorest people live in capitalist countries Taitertots Sep 2014 #158
I like it too and so does President Obama. 3rdwaydem Sep 2014 #178
I'm in favor of socialism. Under socialism we'd have single payer and colleges and universities Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #38
Tomorrow there will be people salivating over the new iPhone Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #45
Right now, boomers are salivating to get on Medicare leftstreet Sep 2014 #68
Toys are fun. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #86
Toys rely critically upon capitalism. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #89
Sure, that could be true. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #91
Yet you mentioned how much you like toys. nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #94
I'm a fan of Market Style Socialism myself.... Xolodno Sep 2014 #55
Nice try. Starry Messenger Sep 2014 #58
I enjoy disagreement. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #87
Without capitalism, there would be no righteous critiques of capitalism BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #59
Ha! nt ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #88
WORKER-OWNED CO-OPS FOREVER 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #60
Thank you... ReRe Sep 2014 #97
I am constantly amazed at how the worker-ownership silver bullet appears invisible to lefties ... 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #106
Because most people don't want, or aren't able, to run businesses. brooklynite Sep 2014 #113
I'm sure that's true for some people 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #122
I don't know, my friend... ReRe Sep 2014 #144
Hey! My wife works for one of those worker-owned co-ops....it's called a Wall Street law firm. brooklynite Sep 2014 #162
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2014 #168
No, it would not be better. Happy now? arcane1 Sep 2014 #169
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2014 #170
I guess it's because they're greedy old white guys. All four terms apply. arcane1 Sep 2014 #171
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2014 #173
You're trying too hard n/t arcane1 Sep 2014 #174
Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #176
+100 ~nt 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #177
Too for gone TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #186
$300 Million 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #195
No, it's not "shit" TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #196
Someone apparently forgot to tell that to the people in Mondragon 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #199
Hmmmm TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #200
A Cooperative Bank 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #201
Why is is that you don't understand TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #202
"the Fed will not take big risks"? really? 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #203
That's because the crooks are giving away OUR money TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #204
That "too risky" sign hanging over the "Worker Co-op" option 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #206
sigh TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #207
Our difference 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #208
No! I am not saying they are less risky. NOT AT ALL! TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #209
Great. 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #210
Unrestrained, unbridled growth at the expense of everything else equals cancer. kairos12 Sep 2014 #79
Excellent! defacto7 Sep 2014 #180
Capitalism is the ruler of us all. Quantess Sep 2014 #80
Excellent read! kentuck Sep 2014 #96
Capitalism must be regulated to within an inch of its life. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #98
Thank you for this thread, ZombieHorde ReRe Sep 2014 #100
Capitalism is flawed on its basic precept RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #101
Actually, your precept is the one that's flawed. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #107
Economics in general may be RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #119
One of the highly touted defacto7 Sep 2014 #181
K&R.... daleanime Sep 2014 #165
Capitalism is a myth in a myth defacto7 Sep 2014 #182
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