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In reply to the discussion: PBO's WTF Expression when 10 Seconds after he mentioned "Syria" Chuck Todd said "You have Not.. [View all]glowing
(12,233 posts)would be able to catch any Americans that have fought with ISIL before getting onto a plane. I would think that anyone travelling from that region and that is a younger man, would be flagged as a possible "suspicious person". AND they seem to even know how Western young men are travelling back and forth into this region: They are going through other countries like Turkey to make their way into the fighting front.
I think we also have to ask ourselves what sort of ginned up lies are coming out of the entire story that is ISIL. As of a year ago, this disjointed group of rebel fighters where battling against the Assad regime in Syria. In fact, we had our own Senator Bomb, Bomb Johnny standing over there with these rebel fighters taking pictures with them and yucking it up... At that time, I believe Rachel pointed out that ole' Johnny, hasn't met a world crisis that didn't call for American boots on the ground and bombs in the air, was meeting with Al Qaeda operatives and fanatic religious rebel leaders. At that time, many of us were questioning who exactly it was that "doing something" types popping up on every Sunday talk show would be training and arming with American weapons? AND I'm sorry, but I'm not exactly believing that there wasn't some sort of CIA initiative going on behind the scenes in actually arming and training these rebel fighters. Are we really to believe that these rebels just happened to stumble over US military clothing and boots exactly in each other's sizes or that ground to air missiles are just haphazardly lying about for anyone to pick up or that tanks and other military vehicles are sitting around like its a used car lot for the pickings? OR that the outside funding coming from Saudi Arabia and other countries in the region aren't helping to fund and sway young men into the fight in this region? I'm sure many of these young "militants" care more about a steady paycheck for their families than they care about the extremism of the groups leaders. AND at that, who knows how real or fake this "caliphate" is among the leaders? Is it more akin to a "battle cry" and viewed as a means to excite and bring in support for their rebellion; similar to our Patriotic/ God/ wrapped all in a flag type of mentality goes within our support of our military by citizens of this country (so much so that they see their own lives sucking ass and their children's education suffering as they watch more than 1/2 of all their tax monies going toward building bombs instead of building up our nation)?
Does anyone feel it seems suspicious that this ISIL group gets their act together so supremely in the span of approximately a year, and that they cross the Iraqi border almost immediately upon the news of President Obama peacefully, through negotiations, getting the Assad regime to hand over all chemical warfare in that country without having to bomb or put boots on the ground in Syria? All of a sudden this ISIL group, dressed in American military garb, driving American military vehicles, and utilizing American weapons, is an extremely dangerous army and they are taking over Iraq. What happened when this group advanced, they took over certain regions and threatened groups of people and regions in Iraq that the American people would be described narratively as the "good guys" in Iraq, we went in with "advisors", we bombed ISIL targets, and we got Maliki to remove himself from office (perhaps mission accomplished? who knows, perhaps he was being stingy with oil contracts? Lord knows the Iraqi people should be making enough oil profits to arm their own nation's army and security without having to rely on the United States). Also, this is popping up just before mid-term elections and making President Obama's narrative of successfully retreating from Iraq a positive item and makes McCain and Romney (media's favorite Sunday morning arm chair quarterbacks), seem as if they were right and the Pres was wrong.. yada yada... Plus, now the beheading of 2 American journalists to espouse shock and outrage among Americans (like torture and drone bombing village weddings doesn't piss the hell off out of people in the region we are warring against). AND that this group is using these items of aggression and beheadings as a direct meme to the world and specifically the West, that they want a war with America. The UK is upgrading there "terra" alerts and fearing a targeted attack.
Is anyone thinking all of this seems a bit staged like "yellow cake". Is the MIC fearing peace? And to be fair, I know there are people within the whole rebel group that are dangerous, would chop off my head if caught exposed over there. I'm not naïve as to how those doing the fighting and killing and dying aren't as manipulated as any soldier of battle who is sent to fight by those at the top of the power structure. Is it just too much to ask that we can try to live in peace. Build schools and homes, instead of weapons that cost a lot of money and only destroy? Could we not try and hand over a more peaceful world to our children? We have been at perpetual war now for longer than my son has been alive. He has only known a world where we have wars in the ME and is taught revised and inaccurate history regarding 9/11, "yellow cake", "War on Terror", and "patriotism". Does this seem like it should be normal--to live in perpetual war/ terror/ fear? Spend all of our tax labor on destruction? Literally destroy local economy, school funding, infrastructure funding on paying for war toys, fighter jets that don't work, bombs and drones... I'm just so fed up with it all, and I desperately am hoping there are no scheduled war games or that the NSA, CIA, FBI, HHS (the alphabet soup of policing) miss something as Thursday approaches. Two years ago we had the Benghazi debacle on 9/11; I'm really hoping that we don't have another anniversary attack.