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193. First, I would hope that all that beefed up security within our Homeland Agency efforts and TSA thug
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 09:47 PM
Sep 2014

would be able to catch any Americans that have fought with ISIL before getting onto a plane. I would think that anyone travelling from that region and that is a younger man, would be flagged as a possible "suspicious person". AND they seem to even know how Western young men are travelling back and forth into this region: They are going through other countries like Turkey to make their way into the fighting front.

I think we also have to ask ourselves what sort of ginned up lies are coming out of the entire story that is ISIL. As of a year ago, this disjointed group of rebel fighters where battling against the Assad regime in Syria. In fact, we had our own Senator Bomb, Bomb Johnny standing over there with these rebel fighters taking pictures with them and yucking it up... At that time, I believe Rachel pointed out that ole' Johnny, hasn't met a world crisis that didn't call for American boots on the ground and bombs in the air, was meeting with Al Qaeda operatives and fanatic religious rebel leaders. At that time, many of us were questioning who exactly it was that "doing something" types popping up on every Sunday talk show would be training and arming with American weapons? AND I'm sorry, but I'm not exactly believing that there wasn't some sort of CIA initiative going on behind the scenes in actually arming and training these rebel fighters. Are we really to believe that these rebels just happened to stumble over US military clothing and boots exactly in each other's sizes or that ground to air missiles are just haphazardly lying about for anyone to pick up or that tanks and other military vehicles are sitting around like its a used car lot for the pickings? OR that the outside funding coming from Saudi Arabia and other countries in the region aren't helping to fund and sway young men into the fight in this region? I'm sure many of these young "militants" care more about a steady paycheck for their families than they care about the extremism of the groups leaders. AND at that, who knows how real or fake this "caliphate" is among the leaders? Is it more akin to a "battle cry" and viewed as a means to excite and bring in support for their rebellion; similar to our Patriotic/ God/ wrapped all in a flag type of mentality goes within our support of our military by citizens of this country (so much so that they see their own lives sucking ass and their children's education suffering as they watch more than 1/2 of all their tax monies going toward building bombs instead of building up our nation)?

Does anyone feel it seems suspicious that this ISIL group gets their act together so supremely in the span of approximately a year, and that they cross the Iraqi border almost immediately upon the news of President Obama peacefully, through negotiations, getting the Assad regime to hand over all chemical warfare in that country without having to bomb or put boots on the ground in Syria? All of a sudden this ISIL group, dressed in American military garb, driving American military vehicles, and utilizing American weapons, is an extremely dangerous army and they are taking over Iraq. What happened when this group advanced, they took over certain regions and threatened groups of people and regions in Iraq that the American people would be described narratively as the "good guys" in Iraq, we went in with "advisors", we bombed ISIL targets, and we got Maliki to remove himself from office (perhaps mission accomplished? who knows, perhaps he was being stingy with oil contracts? Lord knows the Iraqi people should be making enough oil profits to arm their own nation's army and security without having to rely on the United States). Also, this is popping up just before mid-term elections and making President Obama's narrative of successfully retreating from Iraq a positive item and makes McCain and Romney (media's favorite Sunday morning arm chair quarterbacks), seem as if they were right and the Pres was wrong.. yada yada... Plus, now the beheading of 2 American journalists to espouse shock and outrage among Americans (like torture and drone bombing village weddings doesn't piss the hell off out of people in the region we are warring against). AND that this group is using these items of aggression and beheadings as a direct meme to the world and specifically the West, that they want a war with America. The UK is upgrading there "terra" alerts and fearing a targeted attack.

Is anyone thinking all of this seems a bit staged like "yellow cake". Is the MIC fearing peace? And to be fair, I know there are people within the whole rebel group that are dangerous, would chop off my head if caught exposed over there. I'm not naïve as to how those doing the fighting and killing and dying aren't as manipulated as any soldier of battle who is sent to fight by those at the top of the power structure. Is it just too much to ask that we can try to live in peace. Build schools and homes, instead of weapons that cost a lot of money and only destroy? Could we not try and hand over a more peaceful world to our children? We have been at perpetual war now for longer than my son has been alive. He has only known a world where we have wars in the ME and is taught revised and inaccurate history regarding 9/11, "yellow cake", "War on Terror", and "patriotism". Does this seem like it should be normal--to live in perpetual war/ terror/ fear? Spend all of our tax labor on destruction? Literally destroy local economy, school funding, infrastructure funding on paying for war toys, fighter jets that don't work, bombs and drones... I'm just so fed up with it all, and I desperately am hoping there are no scheduled war games or that the NSA, CIA, FBI, HHS (the alphabet soup of policing) miss something as Thursday approaches. Two years ago we had the Benghazi debacle on 9/11; I'm really hoping that we don't have another anniversary attack.

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Recommended. (nt) NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #1
Thanks SKP.. Expose that gopropagandaiac, chucky turd! Cha Sep 2014 #3
Another example of how today's "journalists" go into interviews with an agenda. bulloney Sep 2014 #97
Bingo! Chuck Toad got his script e-mailed from the Koch Bros and MIC, and it was clear he didn't BlueCaliDem Sep 2014 #128
Maybe CT had a plan -- Maybe he wanted the 4 times PBO said it to land on the cutting room floor, FourScore Sep 2014 #130
that's what I'm thinking elehhhhna Sep 2014 #180
As the op noted, LISTENING is an important skill and having the dexterity karynnj Sep 2014 #139
Chuck Todd.... sgtbenobo Sep 2014 #157
G U E S S W H A T David Letterman did....... just guess, bet you can't fadedrose Sep 2014 #196
Oh I love this! NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #197
No,who? fadedrose Sep 2014 #198
Paul Shaffer was on the daytime show before Late Night wasn't he? rufus dog Sep 2014 #199
You'll have to listen to the NPR offerings on the weekends.... NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #200
Oh, Chuckles... Lefta Dissenter Sep 2014 #2
Right, LD.. Chucky doesn't want to hear a thing the President has to say.. only the sound Cha Sep 2014 #6
Well, it is Chucky's job to repeat whatever buzz words he hears in his ear piece. truedelphi Sep 2014 #144
amazing -- small letters deliberate oldandhappy Sep 2014 #4
4 Freaking Times PBO mentioned Syria, oldandhappy and he still didn't GET IT! Cha Sep 2014 #9
To be accurate, Pres. Obama said "Syria" just ONCE before Chucky Todd claimed ... 66 dmhlt Sep 2014 #118
The NBC transcript is not complete. chowder66 Sep 2014 #124
I stand corrected (sort of ...) 66 dmhlt Sep 2014 #140
No. I listened to it and he mentioned Syria at avebury Sep 2014 #183
Where is David Gregory when you need him? n/t IllinoisBirdWatcher Sep 2014 #5
Brwaaaaaaaa! So you think David Gregory would have heard PBO talk about Syria 4 times and Cha Sep 2014 #11
Why didn't Obama correct him on the spot? nt kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #7
Dunno.. but, those who saw it and did hear what the President said are doing a fine Cha Sep 2014 #40
Because he has asked US to begin the process of changing these things, he will back US. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #186
ever mindful not to embarrass the fool mehrrh Sep 2014 #112
Probably becuase Bartlet Sep 2014 #184
Welcome to DU, Bartlet, and also mehrrh! calimary Sep 2014 #217
Hello Cha, TexasTowelie Sep 2014 #8
Mahalo for the heads up, TexasT! I deleted that link.. however further down in OP there's a link Cha Sep 2014 #13
When you have rehearsed what you think are going to be your best... 3catwoman3 Sep 2014 #10
LOL, 3catwoman! Cha Sep 2014 #14
Bet that's it! calimary Sep 2014 #56
He seemed to get smaller and meeker as the interview went on Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #167
Exactly. This was his Moment and he utterly blew it arcane1 Sep 2014 #60
That's exactly what I was thinking Martin Eden Sep 2014 #99
"please proceed Governor" Quayblue Sep 2014 #142
I cherish those words ailsagirl Sep 2014 #211
Welcome to DU, Quayblue! calimary Sep 2014 #218
It was (I'm giggling at it now) Quayblue Sep 2014 #228
sarah palin would have called it a GOTCHA question elehhhhna Sep 2014 #181
I've never wanted to grind a pie into someone's face so badly pablo_marmol Sep 2014 #12
Rofl.. that's a very Cha Sep 2014 #15
DUzy! shenmue Sep 2014 #34
Works for me! Sounds like a most inauspicious debut. calimary Sep 2014 #54
Sounds appropriate, we wouldn't have to hear him for three days... freshwest Sep 2014 #75
But no lemon meringue -- that's too soft and fluffy. pablo_marmol Sep 2014 #207
I'm thinking gobs of aerosol shaving cream. He'd eat it, too. freshwest Sep 2014 #208
Kick! Cha Sep 2014 #16
Ha! laundry_queen Sep 2014 #17
Not once but 4 times, laundry queen! Chucky needs to clean out his ears! Cha Sep 2014 #18
Chuck Todd is in so over his head that it makes deep earth shrews laugh uncontrollably tomm2thumbs Sep 2014 #19
From your keys to the gods who control CorporatemediaWhoredom, tomm2thumbs! Cha Sep 2014 #20
Another DUzy! freshwest Sep 2014 #76
who did he blow for that gig? elehhhhna Sep 2014 #182
Luke Russert? KittyWampus Sep 2014 #203
Chuck needs to do some real journalism and go to Syria for interviews. gordianot Sep 2014 #21
You mean instead of sitting up there in the MTPresstitutes seat with his fingers in his ears? Cha Sep 2014 #26
Baby Russert knows what it is like to do a screw up like he did with Pelosi. gordianot Sep 2014 #57
"Chuckie's tin ear".. Rofl.. nailed it! So you Cha Sep 2014 #59
In many ways this worse than Fox, MSNBC makes money off of Progressives. gordianot Sep 2014 #74
I agree.. it's much worse than fox "news".. everyone knows they LIE.. but, stations like Cha Sep 2014 #78
That's why I stopped watching MSNBC dorkzilla Sep 2014 #137
And the right would have said Obama was louis-t Sep 2014 #146
My Hero's Opinion of Chuck the Toad: freshwest Sep 2014 #22
Chucky is a despicable mediawhore.. and needs to be exposed, fresh! Cha Sep 2014 #27
How can Obama 'sell it,' if they won't let him 'tell it?' As Tx4obama said: freshwest Sep 2014 #67
Chuck Todd is a dumba$$ who keeps getting bumped up, fresh.. Cha Sep 2014 #68
It means 'Fuck Off, Republicans!' As far as Todd... the way I explain him was on a graphic here.. freshwest Sep 2014 #71
Thanks, fresh.. I'll keep an eye out for something like that. Cha Sep 2014 #72
TY, let me know if you find it. That graphic said it all. freshwest Sep 2014 #73
It's the earphones defacto7 Sep 2014 #23
Clealy Chuckie can't multitask.. listen to the guy he's interviewing while all that other shite is Cha Sep 2014 #29
The earphone problem can be overcome. freshwest Sep 2014 #82
Send it to Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell, Thom Hartman, and anyone tblue37 Sep 2014 #24
I agree, tblue.. this needs to be seen.. See what I can do about that! Cha Sep 2014 #30
Only one who could maybe call him out is Hartmann BumRushDaShow Sep 2014 #91
Syriasly, Chuck? Blue Owl Sep 2014 #25
It's really too damn much, Blue Owl! Cha Sep 2014 #32
I knew Todd would be a walking disaster. lpbk2713 Sep 2014 #28
Agree completely. n/t kiranon Sep 2014 #31
They kinda Lost All credibility when they were explaining why they let Cha Sep 2014 #36
+1000 nt freebrew Sep 2014 #107
. Rex Sep 2014 #33
. Rex Sep 2014 #37
Nailed it! mountain grammy Sep 2014 #127
Eeewww. That smug face. GoCubsGo Sep 2014 #150
I read his expression a little differently... ChazInAz Sep 2014 #162
Chuck is using this gig to audition for FOX "News".... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #35
Well, Chucky acted like a perfect moron so fox "news" is obviously interested.. Cha Sep 2014 #38
Chuck Toad is not even in the same league as President Obama. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #39
Chuck Toad didn't get his toady epithet for nothing, Major! Cha Sep 2014 #42
He didn't even graduate from college! Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #51
All I can say is.. he should have stayed with Music, Major! Cha Sep 2014 #55
IMO, few people have the intelligence dotymed Sep 2014 #148
thump, thump, thump..... obxhead Sep 2014 #41
I give a fuck about that mediawhore asshole, Chuck Todd. It's not whining to point out Cha Sep 2014 #43
The toad is a republicon asshole obxhead Sep 2014 #45
Yeah, they're going to do something about ISIS.. Good. Cha Sep 2014 #46
How much skin do you have in the game? obxhead Sep 2014 #48
President Obama has already said "No Iraq War".. but, you're not listening.. Cha Sep 2014 #49
So your answer is none. obxhead Sep 2014 #52
My answer is there is not going to be an Iraq war for our loved ones to be in.. there's enough Cha Sep 2014 #64
Cha obxhead Sep 2014 #66
Yeah, I guess we're supposed to just let them do whatever they want. 7962 Sep 2014 #119
First, I would hope that all that beefed up security within our Homeland Agency efforts and TSA thug glowing Sep 2014 #193
You talkin' to me? flamingdem Sep 2014 #44
Thanks, flamingdem for helping to spread the word about MTP's new head Presstitute.. :( Cha Sep 2014 #47
Total bizarro world. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #50
On that we agree, gg.. :( Cha Sep 2014 #53
OMG! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #58
We're not sure about that, she.. are gopropaganda mediawhores capable of using their brains? Cha Sep 2014 #61
One would think after the disaster that was Gregory, Meet the Mess Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #62
That's why it's so mind blowing, Uncle Joe.. One Would Think! Hey, it's just ratings and MONEY Cha Sep 2014 #63
K! Cha Sep 2014 #65
And this is why I don't watch the TV news anymore Kalidurga Sep 2014 #69
And, I don't either, Kalidurga.. haven't since 2002.. thanks for helping to spread the word about Cha Sep 2014 #70
Why does my mom even like Chuck? minivan2 Sep 2014 #77
Show her this, minivan Cha Sep 2014 #80
I see nothing minivan2 Sep 2014 #81
I meant the OP, minivan.. sorry. Cha Sep 2014 #101
Oh ok minivan2 Sep 2014 #158
Welcome to DU, minivan2! calimary Sep 2014 #219
I can't watch Upchuck Tawd--he's a jerk. MTP is going to have to hit rock bottom MADem Sep 2014 #79
Agree.. David Gregory isn't rock bottom enough for them.. Deborah Turness must have thought Cha Sep 2014 #83
Just shows he doesn't LISTEN leftynyc Sep 2014 #84
Chuck Todd busted himself wide Open on his debut mtp show.. like you say.. trying so Cha Sep 2014 #86
I stopped watching the Sunday shows leftynyc Sep 2014 #87
I stopped in 2002.. and I had only started in 1999.. and have been hoping Cha Sep 2014 #88
You rarely see it this clearly, though. randome Sep 2014 #93
What an idiot treestar Sep 2014 #85
Yes, chuckie came through like a flying chump.. just as predicted, treestar! Cha Sep 2014 #90
thanks! treestar Sep 2014 #92
Washington has perfected Prez O's WTF expression BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #89
That's the pic I was thinking of when you said that, BG! lol Cha Sep 2014 #96
Perfect response..... Ineeda Sep 2014 #105
I will applaud when John Stewart and Colbert nail Chuck Todd for this bullshit. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #94
This is made for Jon Stewart.. I hope they pick on it in their m$mwhore watch, Enthusiast. Cha Sep 2014 #98
Chuck Toady fail...he's not ready for prime time... Historic NY Sep 2014 #95
Precisely, Historic NY.. that's why the honchos at nbc kicked him upstairs. He's Cha Sep 2014 #100
OMFG. In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon." catbyte Sep 2014 #102
No,catbyte.. and he couldn't pry his ears from republicon talking points long enough to Cha Sep 2014 #104
Talk about JV teams, who let Chuck off the bench? nt justiceischeap Sep 2014 #103
I believe it was Deborah Turness, jic.. a British journalist who has been President of nbc "news" Cha Sep 2014 #108
I would send him to HELL. orbitalman Sep 2014 #106
Think about this...In ten seconds or perhaps 15..Chuckie has defined himself forever...too stupid... Stuart G Sep 2014 #109
Love it! Stellar Sep 2014 #147
HE WAS NOT LISTENING mehrrh Sep 2014 #110
Well said, mehrrh! Chuckster Todd has set the Bar and it's as low as you go.. Thanks Obama! nm Cha Sep 2014 #170
It reminds me of an old woman on The Price is Right one day. No doubt she had brewens Sep 2014 #111
Chuckie wants to work with the serious Journalists over at Fox. marble falls Sep 2014 #113
Huff Post's review of Fuckie Chuckie....reviewer did not catch the " Fuckie Chukie Moment..." Stuart G Sep 2014 #114
This suggests to me that the interview was rehearsed, and in that rehearsal Obama indeed did not WinkyDink Sep 2014 #115
These talking heads do not ever listen to anything anyone is saying. That is why they LiberalArkie Sep 2014 #116
mr todd showed his bias in his treatment of the President. i have no use for todd. spanone Sep 2014 #117
Funny! Catherine Vincent Sep 2014 #120
That must be strange for both people weissmam Sep 2014 #121
perhaps chuckie could tell us exactly what his job entails. locdlib Sep 2014 #122
Please proceed Chucky... lunatica Sep 2014 #123
Toad fail ONCE MORE benld74 Sep 2014 #125
I don't meen to sound smug, but who expected any better out of a hack like Todd? Paladin Sep 2014 #126
Squeaky little asshole is so full of himself that he did not listen to a word the President said notadmblnd Sep 2014 #129
Well, I Am Glad I Did Not See That Liberal_Dog Sep 2014 #131
This doesn't surprise me at all. I don't blame Pres. Obama for truth2power Sep 2014 #132
He was reading the talking points he gets from Moonie News. blm Sep 2014 #133
Doesn't look too good for Chuck Todd on his "grand debut" Zambero Sep 2014 #134
And NBC puts up an incomplete transcript missing many of the 'Syria' references, but with Todd's muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #135
Wow, Good Catch, muriel! Damn them.. So they know of course.. covering chuckie's tracks. nm Cha Sep 2014 #171
Wow! that idiot was just waiting so much to say that to Obama that he wasn't listening. WI_DEM Sep 2014 #136
Chuck Todd... MynameisBlarney Sep 2014 #138
he probably thinks its not our job to fact check him as well samsingh Sep 2014 #141
Actually, I didn't watch MTP yesterday. Stellar Sep 2014 #143
The Toddler--dumbest "editor" on tv librechik Sep 2014 #145
Chuck Todd should have opened with that line. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #149
Right! "You’ve not said the word, “Syria,” so far in our conversation".. either way he's toasted Cha Sep 2014 #173
Hey Chucky, Cheese with your wine? sheshe2 Sep 2014 #202
Clearly, President Obama knew what he'd be up against with Chucky Cheeze and Whine, she.. Cha Sep 2014 #204
I have seen Mr Todd is action more than once Peacetrain Sep 2014 #151
I know what you mean, Peacetrain.. I very much imagine the President knew what chuck would Cha Sep 2014 #176
Todd is not even close to being in the same league as Barrack Obama. He didn't even graduate from YOHABLO Sep 2014 #152
Chucky is definitely bush league, YOHABLO! nm Cha Sep 2014 #205
Toad, another dull tool of the media heaven05 Sep 2014 #153
i wish we hadn't started calling ourselves 'the homeland'. smacks of wwii. eom ellenfl Sep 2014 #154
I wish we didn't have Corporatemediawhore$ like Chuck Todd. Cha Sep 2014 #177
that too. eom ellenfl Sep 2014 #209
I wish that someone who wipe that smile off his face. olegramps Sep 2014 #155
Chuck Toad is a loser with a capital L merrily Sep 2014 #156
K & R SunSeeker Sep 2014 #159
It's hard to make David Gregory look good - TBF Sep 2014 #160
Yes I agree. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #163
Obama looks more like "Don't pull that crap on me, pal!" C Moon Sep 2014 #161
Never again!! bleedinglib Sep 2014 #164
Welcome to DU, bleedinglib! calimary Sep 2014 #220
Kicking! sheshe2 Sep 2014 #165
Thanks sweetie! Cha Sep 2014 #178
Well.... sheshe2 Sep 2014 #179
.. Cha Sep 2014 #190
Sadly we know he's not going anywhere, Cha. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #194
Chuck fits his target audience DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #166
Welcome to "Meet The PROPAGANDISTS with Chuck Todd" amb123 Sep 2014 #168
So true. But this time the propagandists made an incredibly huge slip up...sending in a man Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #187
Chuck Todd is a real Nowhere Man..... DFW Sep 2014 #169
The Fool Next To Capitol Hill Blue Owl Sep 2014 #174
Insidious and diabolical, actually. Very 1984. Ignore zonkers Sep 2014 #172
Excellent analysis, by jove, zonkers! Cha Sep 2014 #175
This would have had the makings of a Monty Python sketch bvf Sep 2014 #185
Chuck "Koch sucker" Todd Raster Sep 2014 #188
Raster, you've nailed it with two words! nm Cha Sep 2014 #192
Thank you, Cha fadedrose Sep 2014 #189
And, Chucky himself.. is letting the world know it.. except nbc is now trying to cover it up by Cha Sep 2014 #191
Being conservative means feeling smug when they shouldn't be. IronLionZion Sep 2014 #195
Chuck Todd is a jerk... GigiMommy Sep 2014 #201
Exactly, GigiMommy.. and yet there he is! :( Cha Sep 2014 #206
"A single picture is worth a thousand words" ailsagirl Sep 2014 #210
It was expected that Chuck Todd would come on all full of RW talking points.. the Cha Sep 2014 #212
When I think of all the QUALIFIED people ailsagirl Sep 2014 #213
Chuck's MTP Debut Worse than Obamacare Rollout. ZX86 Sep 2014 #214
I respect PBO so damn much almost to the point of a full-on crush! Mercy_Queen Sep 2014 #215
Welcome to DU, Mercy_Queen! Cha Sep 2014 #216
Welcome to DU, Mercy_Queen! calimary Sep 2014 #225
I have a friend who refers to her nether parts as Chuckie. Snort. lonestarnot Sep 2014 #221
Chucky Todd just seems to fit the description of what a little toady would look Cha Sep 2014 #222
Bad on MSNBC! Bad on them! lonestarnot Sep 2014 #223
Yes, and the Blowback on NBC "news" president, Deborah Turness should Cha Sep 2014 #224
I'm willing to bet that Chuck practices his 'tablet clutch' and 'finger to earpiece' poses... Earth_First Sep 2014 #226
Roger that, Earth_First.. Cha Sep 2014 #227
Can't stand Chuck Todd cwydro Sep 2014 #229
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