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one_voice

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50. Let me be clear...

Tue Sep 9, 2014, 12:22 PM

Sep 2014

I don't want anything hidden. I want him held accountable.

What I disagree with is the video. She's entitled to her privacy and not to be judged and tried in the media or on message boards. She's the victim. I find it strange that the people who are yelling the loudest about her being the victim have no problem with re-victimizing her over and over with this video. Metaphorically punching her in the face again and again....

The video is not needed. It could have been a written description.

When they entered the elevator they appeared to be having a disagreement. After a few minutes Rice punched Janay so hard that she fell hitting her head on the rail in the elevator car which left her unconscious for at least a minute and half.

Something like that. Do we really need to see her being punched? No I don't think so.

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Wife defends Ray Rice, slams media [View all] joeybee12 Sep 2014 OP

Domestic disputes (abusive relationships) are the most dangerous for the police underpants Sep 2014 #1

While true, I have no idea what that has to do with this article tkmorris Sep 2014 #2

She is in an abusive relationship underpants Sep 2014 #14

And in denial. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #28

Because you can see the "circle the wagons" mentality in this Twitter post ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #70

This is so sad. It's clear she believes this is her fault. Tatiana Sep 2014 #3

All I will say is that she married him after malaise Sep 2014 #6

And your point? That abused women make bad decisions? HERVEPA Sep 2014 #20

No point - just an observation malaise Sep 2014 #24

We all knew she married him afterward. Curious as to the point of the post. HERVEPA Sep 2014 #27

Maybe to 'inform'. I didn't know she married him after the abuse and now I do. eom Purveyor Sep 2014 #78

OK. Got it. HERVEPA Sep 2014 #90

a person has to reach a certain point, sadly. bettyellen Sep 2014 #45

She had a child with him before that horrific beating. She was already tied to him emotionally pnwmom Sep 2014 #73

This seems to be a vicious circle, which is what domestic abuse is. CTyankee Sep 2014 #12

Does she post here? Maybe we need us questioning why she stays. merrily Sep 2014 #54

Sadly this reaction is not uncommon geek tragedy Sep 2014 #4

Blame the media for the fact that your husband is now unemployed...real good PR move. (Sarcasm) Mike Daniels Sep 2014 #5

yup and possibly he would already be in a treatment program. nt littlewolf Sep 2014 #11

Over the years Old Codger Sep 2014 #7

All PDs should do that, since the victim usually either won't tblue37 Sep 2014 #26

I Knew Old Codger Sep 2014 #40

Oh, oh. Income stream drying up divorce to follow. NV Whino Sep 2014 #8

Plenty of info out there if you care to look. HERVEPA Sep 2014 #21

Yes,I know. NV Whino Sep 2014 #22

she more then likely had a abusive childhood, or a relationship that she felt she had no power in. a kennedy Sep 2014 #32

What I found to be disgusting is that he was Autumn Sep 2014 #9

Many abused women feel this same way. boston bean Sep 2014 #10

Goldie Taylor was just saying the same thing on MSNBC. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #30

I truly hope this doesn't become a pile-on, this is a woman needs HELP Happyhippychick Sep 2014 #13

This is a classic DU pile-on. But that's OK, because it isn't even about Rice or Palmer now. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #25

How long should he be locked up for jamzrockz Sep 2014 #47

For 24 hours longer than you think he should be Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #49

Good One RobinA Sep 2014 #53

Here's what I learned about what you 'learned' from DU. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #61

Disagree. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #63

Seems like a few posters here just hate this place and the other posters Rex Sep 2014 #81

No doubt! We should just shut down DU and not talk about anything at all! Rex Sep 2014 #79

Jury Results Blue_Adept Sep 2014 #88

Indeed. mindfulNJ Sep 2014 #46

SMH Mr Dixon Sep 2014 #15

Power and Control. littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #16

OMGosh.....this is it. a kennedy Sep 2014 #34

Incredible information presented. Thank you. truedelphi Sep 2014 #80

Money's Drying Up JanetLovesObama Sep 2014 #17

I fear for her life. nt littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #18

The psychology of domestic violence is a terrible thing. Brickbat Sep 2014 #19

Got that right. a kennedy Sep 2014 #33

taking the happiness away treestar Sep 2014 #23

The one thing I will agree on... one_voice Sep 2014 #29

I happen to agree most profoundly nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #31

I'm going to disagree, respectfully. boston bean Sep 2014 #35

It should have been prosecuted... one_voice Sep 2014 #38

It was prosecuted. He pled guilty. MADem Sep 2014 #51

No it wasn't... one_voice Sep 2014 #56

If there's an up-side to this horror, it is that the issue of these squirrely diversions is finally MADem Sep 2014 #57

Agree completely.... Punkingal Sep 2014 #75

Disagree. The vid put a face on what domestic violence really is bigwillq Sep 2014 #36

I never suggested that women... one_voice Sep 2014 #39

I suspect the reason it was leaked was because someone felt justiceischeap Sep 2014 #43

The prosecutors certainly did. And when the whitewash and cover up geek tragedy Sep 2014 #48

Let me be clear... one_voice Sep 2014 #50

That was all known. And it was being covered up geek tragedy Sep 2014 #60

I disagree Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #71

I didn't *need* to see it... one_voice Sep 2014 #77

Well that's you then...Don't watch it if you don't want to Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #83

Yeah better to cover up domestic violence, than to expose it for all the world to see. Rex Sep 2014 #82

Right. Because that's what I said.... one_voice Sep 2014 #85

Ray Rice got away with this until we saw the video Z_California Sep 2014 #86

Do we need to see prison rapes too? one_voice Sep 2014 #87

Given they went to court ordered counciling Johonny Sep 2014 #37

I guess we all know what's best for her lame54 Sep 2014 #41

Having a conversation on DV, with Palmer-Rice as the catalyst, doesn't mean we all know what's best justiceischeap Sep 2014 #44

Okay, she really is an idiot now. FLPanhandle Sep 2014 #42

She's not an idiot, please don't call her that. Avalux Sep 2014 #52

Victim shaming is not the right answer. Strike that. It is not the correct answer. merrily Sep 2014 #55

I wonder if she is embarrassed Quantess Sep 2014 #58

And it would be horribly humiliating to watch yourself in that video. pnwmom Sep 2014 #76

Wow, she is in serious denial. I hope she wakes up eventually before it's too late. catbyte Sep 2014 #59

"He hits me but he's rich, what are you people doing to me?" nt TeamPooka Sep 2014 #62

Maybe. Maybe not. 840high Sep 2014 #64

Read somehwere they have a child LittleBlue Sep 2014 #65

My mom was hit/beaten by my dad many times. I was a witness. She left him for fears for my safety. TeamPooka Sep 2014 #66

Your mother was very strong LittleBlue Sep 2014 #67

Thank you. It was not an easy thing for her to do back in 1965. I would hope it could TeamPooka Sep 2014 #69

They do. And it wouldn't be just pride to keep her family together -- it would be out of concern pnwmom Sep 2014 #74

Stockholm syndrome. Rex Sep 2014 #68

oh....So it's "the media's" fault....Is that your story now? Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #72

Very sad shenmue Sep 2014 #84

She's blessed to forgive what he did to her Catherine Vincent Sep 2014 #89

It alomst sounds like "He's going to blame ME for this! You know what will happen, so please stop!" arcane1 Sep 2014 #91

And dont forget the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ MFM008 Sep 2014 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author ok_cpu Sep 2014 #96

You know, this isn't about her rock Sep 2014 #93

"unwanted options" cwydro Sep 2014 #94

Blame everyone except the person who caused this whole fiasco Taitertots Sep 2014 #95