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In reply to the discussion: Will air assault against IS in Syria be used to effect regime change? [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)53. "ISIS has spent most of the past 18 months avoiding actually fighting the Syrian government,
concentrating instead on destroying its rivals, the Jabhat al-Nusra (Succor Front), other radical groups, and the more secular-minded Free Syrian Army."
When IS comes after its rivals among the rebels, it is vicious, mowing them down without conscience. Even classic al-Qaeda under Ayman al-Zawahiri has condemned IS and kicked it out of al-Qaeda.
Abu al-Miqdad of the Islamic Front, which has fought both the regime and IS, said he supported the American intervention against IS because of the latters bloodthirstiness. They dont distinguish between civilians and combatants and they kill people with knives, he said. Who kills people with knives? He said he hoped the US bombed every last one of them to smithereens. They are not Muslims, he said, but infidels. He said that real Muslims would never have done what they did to civilians and to the Free Syrian Army.
Jaber, head of the Islamic Fronts ad hoc military police in Aleppo, agreed that the US air strikes would be welcome. He said that fighters were facing a de facto alliance of the regime of Bashar al-Assad with IS, since the two avoided fighting each other and concentrated on the other rebels.
Meanwhile, the UN has issued a report condemning both the Baath and IS/ ISIL for war crimes.
http://www.juancole.com/2014/08/welcome-strikes-terrorists.html
You provided on link for this June 24, 2014 attack. If it happened it appears to have been a lone exception to the rule.
When IS comes after its rivals among the rebels, it is vicious, mowing them down without conscience. Even classic al-Qaeda under Ayman al-Zawahiri has condemned IS and kicked it out of al-Qaeda.
Abu al-Miqdad of the Islamic Front, which has fought both the regime and IS, said he supported the American intervention against IS because of the latters bloodthirstiness. They dont distinguish between civilians and combatants and they kill people with knives, he said. Who kills people with knives? He said he hoped the US bombed every last one of them to smithereens. They are not Muslims, he said, but infidels. He said that real Muslims would never have done what they did to civilians and to the Free Syrian Army.
Jaber, head of the Islamic Fronts ad hoc military police in Aleppo, agreed that the US air strikes would be welcome. He said that fighters were facing a de facto alliance of the regime of Bashar al-Assad with IS, since the two avoided fighting each other and concentrated on the other rebels.
Meanwhile, the UN has issued a report condemning both the Baath and IS/ ISIL for war crimes.
http://www.juancole.com/2014/08/welcome-strikes-terrorists.html
Syria jets hit Islamic State targets in Raqqa
Regime planes bombard Islamic State positions as fighters close in on Tabqa air base in northern Raqqa province. Activists say Syrian jets have bombarded positions of the Islamic State group in the northern province of Raqqa as the self-declared jihadists close in on the last army base in the region.
Government forces have previously held off from targeting the Islamic State group, formerly known as ISIL - a strategy that has aided the group's battle against other rebels such as the Islamic Front coalition, the Free Syrian Army and al-Qaeda's affiliate in the Syrian war, the Nusra Front.
Syria's president, Bashar al-Assad, has long painted the uprising in Syria as a foreign-backed conspiracy and his enemies say he has allowed the Islamic State to grow to promote that idea.
The attacks come after the Islamic State group on Thursday captured the headquarters of Syria's 17th Division, based in the Raqqa area. It posted a video online of its operation.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/08/syria-islamic-state-raqqa-201481812135189335.html
You provided on link for this June 24, 2014 attack. If it happened it appears to have been a lone exception to the rule.
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Will air assault against IS in Syria be used to effect regime change? [View all]
another_liberal
Sep 2014
OP
Thank goodness there's still some honest folks in this debate, unlike the online propagandists.
Tarheel_Dem
Sep 2014
#21
personally I try to treat EVERY news source with a critical eye that looks for the holes
KurtNYC
Sep 2014
#24
TYT/Buzzfeed: "Russia's Online Troll Army Is Huge, Hilarious & Already Everywhere "
Tarheel_Dem
Sep 2014
#26
We know "Russian Online Troll Army is huge"! Always popping up with their distractions..
Cha
Sep 2014
#35
"You are disrupting the flow of the conversation here with your off-topic........"
Tarheel_Dem
Sep 2014
#47
But there's an "army of Putin trolls" who've swooped down on us from the Kremlin.
Tarheel_Dem
Sep 2014
#46
We can stop all of this by arming working with Assad, Iran, Israel, SA, Turkey, et al., to help THEM
grahamhgreen
Sep 2014
#5
I have to agree. It seems to me ISIS may be the perfect thing to bring these disparate entities
grahamhgreen
Sep 2014
#9
Would the United States, Turkey, Israel or other Mid-East powers be willing . . .
another_liberal
Sep 2014
#8
the pretext would probably not be the air strikes but the presence of ISIS itself
KurtNYC
Sep 2014
#4
The government in Iraq wants to attack ISIS. In Syria the government did not attack ISIS
pampango
Sep 2014
#16
"ISIS has spent most of the past 18 months avoiding actually fighting the Syrian government,
pampango
Sep 2014
#53
All your links reference Syrian airstrikes on ISIS - oddly - in western Iraq, not in Syria.
pampango
Sep 2014
#58
Obama's speech will be one year to the day of his speech requesting authroization to bomb Assad.
morningfog
Sep 2014
#13
It would appear the Military/Industrial Complex guys got to the good General meantime . . .
another_liberal
Sep 2014
#49
The Only Way Assad's Forces Would Come Under Fire, Sir, Is If They Tried To Interfere
The Magistrate
Sep 2014
#55