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In reply to the discussion: It's frightening how easy it is to build support for war [View all]Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)31. American manufacturers armed ISIS
War is a racket.
According to a new report by the Conflict Armament Research (CAR), which is a project funded by the European Union, a large number of the guns - including high-capacity rifles - used by ISIS were originally supplied to other forces by the US military. "Islamic State forces have captured significant quantities of US-manufactured small arms and have employed them on the battlefield," the report states.
The Conflict Armament Research report and an article in The Independent include a large number of photos indicating the US origin of the weapons. The Independent article states:
James Bevan, CAR director, told [The Independent] that around 30 to 40 per cent of arms his team were able to document were US-made, reflecting the fact that Isis captured most of its weaponry from the Iraqi army when it made stunning territorial gains earlier this year.
Other nations - including Russia and China - were the source of some ISIS weapons, captured as the self-proclaimed caliphate swept across a wide swath of territory in Syria and Iraq and seized arsenals from defeated forces.
But the ISIS use of firearms made in the US is only a small part of the picture. It is clear from photos and videos on the Internet that ISIS has captured US Humvees, Jeeps and other vehicles. It is likely that they are also in possession of US mortars and perhaps even anti-aircraft and anti-tank missiles, among other high-powered weaponry.
http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/us-arms-supplying-isis-the-winners-in-wars-are-always-the-weapons-manufacturers
The Conflict Armament Research report and an article in The Independent include a large number of photos indicating the US origin of the weapons. The Independent article states:
James Bevan, CAR director, told [The Independent] that around 30 to 40 per cent of arms his team were able to document were US-made, reflecting the fact that Isis captured most of its weaponry from the Iraqi army when it made stunning territorial gains earlier this year.
Other nations - including Russia and China - were the source of some ISIS weapons, captured as the self-proclaimed caliphate swept across a wide swath of territory in Syria and Iraq and seized arsenals from defeated forces.
But the ISIS use of firearms made in the US is only a small part of the picture. It is clear from photos and videos on the Internet that ISIS has captured US Humvees, Jeeps and other vehicles. It is likely that they are also in possession of US mortars and perhaps even anti-aircraft and anti-tank missiles, among other high-powered weaponry.
http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/us-arms-supplying-isis-the-winners-in-wars-are-always-the-weapons-manufacturers
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No. I did not miss that. Did I miss that a new stable government has been formed. No
cali
Sep 2014
#7
It doesn’t seem that “ISIS” took over any towns inside Kurdistan proper. The Kurds, on the other
Chathamization
Sep 2014
#73
If we sanction expansionist Kurdish ambitions we shouldn’t be terribly surprised if Sunni Arabs
Chathamization
Sep 2014
#122
Yes they rearranged the deck chairs on the Titanic. Now Maliki is a vice president.
totodeinhere
Sep 2014
#145
Yep; if half of the civilians killed from the bombs were random Americans, you can bet the support
Chathamization
Sep 2014
#80
Yes, but as long as we stay focused on the truly important stuff, everything will be fine.
RufusTFirefly
Sep 2014
#100
The Iraqis that you seem to be concerned about want our help. It's not a circular firing zone. nt
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#112
I'll also make a prediction. They'll have to raid Soc Sec Retirement and Disability to pay for
factsarenotfair
Sep 2014
#8
They can't throw the frog into boiling water, but they can find other ways. n/t
factsarenotfair
Sep 2014
#104
Apparently, there's too many people lacking even "2 brain cells" in this country
2banon
Sep 2014
#111
It is insanity. Ten thousand freaks cultivated by the neoncons, given weapons
ballyhoo
Sep 2014
#131
The neocons and their media allies have left this administration no choice.
conservaphobe
Sep 2014
#9
ISIS has plenty of funding for the near future after looting all the banks in several cities.
stevenleser
Sep 2014
#29
no choice? so the media can just make up shit, and the president has to go along now
J_J_
Sep 2014
#139
Yes it is. It is even more frightening how the so-called "terrorists" can manipulate US citizens
kelliekat44
Sep 2014
#11
And what have Democrats done? Gone along like they did in prelude to the Iraqi war! - n/t
mazzarro
Sep 2014
#101
Unfortunately it's my opinion that much more than 1/3 are non-thinking Americans.
stillwaiting
Sep 2014
#107
Eh, we didn’t really put the Shah in power. He was already in power and we got involved with him
Chathamization
Sep 2014
#136
Like I said, "He was already in power and we got involved with him in a plan where he’d dismiss and
Chathamization
Sep 2014
#147
Yeah, you just need an uneducated and unemployed populace and complete control of the media.
valerief
Sep 2014
#44
Well since we are co-ordinating with several countries including Iran I don't think your assessment
still_one
Sep 2014
#48
we supply air support, they supply the manpower. ISIS is a real threat to Iran and Iraq where the
still_one
Sep 2014
#60
Uh, you're the one that just laid out "the plan"- without following your own advice. how amusing.
cali
Sep 2014
#68
I was speculating on your speculating, and realized that it is all meaningless until we hear what he
still_one
Sep 2014
#72
no, it's not meaningless. Enough has been leaked that we know, roughly, what he plans to do.
cali
Sep 2014
#77
Remember the Bushies who insisted Bush "knows something we don't", and so criticizing
Marr
Sep 2014
#110
I agree, with only one small caveat -- it has taken over a year to sell this one
KurtNYC
Sep 2014
#50
Can't make Sunnis loyal to a Shiite government they hate. And stocking the Iraqi
TwilightGardener
Sep 2014
#119
Another prediction: none of drum war beaters will have their children on the front lines
kairos12
Sep 2014
#57
and there will not be U.S. troops on the ground either. Another prediction from DU how Obama is
still_one
Sep 2014
#63
Small petty males and their stupid juvenile war. They are neither men nor human.
Dont call me Shirley
Sep 2014
#83
I think I'll tack this on here for the folks that are all "but there will be no ground troops":
cali
Sep 2014
#99
Yes. Violence represents a profound failure of intelligence and creativity
RufusTFirefly
Sep 2014
#117
They wanted to draw us into another quagmire. They can use the involvement of the big
totodeinhere
Sep 2014
#153
That makes some sense. But, before we leave, a lot of those criminal bastards are going to be dead.
ladjf
Sep 2014
#154
While they can always con some idiot into "dying for the cause", I believe that their rank and
ladjf
Sep 2014
#208
It frightens me how easy it is to create/form public opinion about anything n/t
Nevada Blue
Sep 2014
#121
Erect Bogeyman, wave flag, start bombing, send troops, and talk about peace.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Sep 2014
#126
"..it's hardly the only place in the world where brutal groups are operating and wreaking havoc.."
blkmusclmachine
Sep 2014
#140
It's easy when all you need do is build that support in the corporate media.
NorthCarolina
Sep 2014
#141
That's what happens when you don't have the photos of coffins to remind you of the
Baitball Blogger
Sep 2014
#156
it's simple math, take the number of innocent kids and adults killed, multiply that by 10 and
whereisjustice
Sep 2014
#157
The surge in support is a visceral reaction to the beheadings. It freaks people out. nt
Stardust
Sep 2014
#167
Then there is the training and weapons supplied that will no doubt be used against us at some future
lonestarnot
Sep 2014
#197
oh for the love of reason. I have already provided PROOF that the U.S. is arming groups in Syria
cali
Sep 2014
#180
so then you openly support military action against boko haram? how about North Korea?
cali
Sep 2014
#193
Yes, "easy," when both of the nation's largest political parties and the nation's mass media
merrily
Sep 2014
#176