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WilliamPitt

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Wed Sep 10, 2014, 12:29 PM Sep 2014

America supports military action? Wrong. [View all]

“Almost two-thirds back attacking militants. Public in more hawkish mood,” blares the Wall Street Journal about a new poll it released this morning. One prominent WSJ writer tweets: “ISIS may have thought video beheadings would reduce Americans’ desire to act; it seems the opposite happened.”

The poll itself does contain some grounds for these conclusions, finding that 61 percent say “military action” against ISIS in Iraq and Syria is “in the national interest.”

But half-baked suggestions that Americans want generic “action” risk being misleading. What actions do Americans actually support? It turns out the WSJ poll also finds that 40 percent say “action” should be “limited to air strikes only” and another 15 percent say we shouldn’t act at all — a total of 55 percent. Meanwhile, all of 34 percent support air strikes and sending in combat troops — perhaps higher than one might expect, but still only one in three Americans.

What’s more, the poll also finds that only 27 percent say the U.S. should become “more active in world affairs.” That’s up from April, but still, it represents barely more than one in four Americans. Meanwhile, 40 percent say we should be less active and another 29 percent say we should maintain our current level of activeness — a total of 69 percent.

(snip)

But dig down beneath the headlines and you find the CNN poll also showed that a large majority, 61-38, oppose sending in ground troops and an even larger one (more than seven in 10 Americans) want Obama to seek Congressional authorization for any such action. In other words, public opinion is more nuanced and complex than the headlines suggest.

Please, folks, let’s not engage in this sort of hype again. There are just no indications that the public is clamoring for war.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2014/09/10/morning-plum-is-media-putting-thumb-on-scale-for-war/?hpid=z2

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True, Sir: The Public Is Not Clamoring For War The Magistrate Sep 2014 #1
thanks for this. k&r cali Sep 2014 #2
Good to see you posting again panader0 Sep 2014 #17
thank you. cali Sep 2014 #19
Likewise here. mahina Sep 2014 #26
and by all indications the president will not have US troops doing ground fighting still_one Sep 2014 #3
air support being a euphemism for bombing. c'mon, if you're going to advocate it cali Sep 2014 #4
They are already doing that with Iraq, and Iran per BBC still_one Sep 2014 #6
I'm not shy abut it. Bomb the hell out of them. Why be shy? 7962 Sep 2014 #21
Yes, that has really worked elsewhere. former9thward Sep 2014 #28
Worked in WW2. Eventually the futility of losing sets in. 7962 Sep 2014 #31
No, it did not work. former9thward Sep 2014 #32
No, I'm not. And you can pick and choose your historians. 7962 Sep 2014 #35
You ignore the massive conventional bombing of Japan and throw in the A-Bomb. former9thward Sep 2014 #36
I said no. Vietnam just illustrates my point. We didnt bomb them to win 7962 Sep 2014 #38
K&R Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2014 #5
So airstrikes are outside your definition of "military action"? jeff47 Sep 2014 #7
Except that they seem to be dropping their support for Obama n2doc Sep 2014 #8
no, his support's falling because this war is his baby: closing ranks only encourages intervention MisterP Sep 2014 #20
So, overwhelming public support for air strikes, but not for sending in ground troops. Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #9
Are the televangelists leading hordes of the faithful Downwinder Sep 2014 #10
K & R Iliyah Sep 2014 #11
Why are airstrikes (74% support in WSJ poll, 76% in CNN poll) not military action to you? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #12
Because ... Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #18
Prior to 1941 the American people had no stomach for war Sopkoviak Sep 2014 #13
Ummmm, the bulk of the Pacific Fleet was at Pearl Harbor that fateful day, IronGate Sep 2014 #16
Once again, you are spot on with the facts. nt 7962 Sep 2014 #22
Thanks. IronGate Sep 2014 #29
The US military did not blockade Japan. We did impose export sanctions; 7962 Sep 2014 #24
"Finally after a strangling blockade by our military Japan was goaded into attacking.." EX500rider Sep 2014 #25
"Saudi Arabia attacked New York in Sept. of 2001" YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #33
I don't know what to think SnakeEyes Sep 2014 #14
Since you mentioned him, Beck WAS saying this was coming back then. 7962 Sep 2014 #23
KnR AtomicKitten Sep 2014 #15
knr Douglas Carpenter Sep 2014 #27
The bottom line of all polling is that the public does .not want combat troops,which is the very Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #30
Excellent analysis:) grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #34
A few months ago, a large majority was against war in Iraq.... kentuck Sep 2014 #37
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