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Sopkoviak

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13. Prior to 1941 the American people had no stomach for war

Wed Sep 10, 2014, 01:32 PM

Sep 2014

FDR found a work around to help Europe with his "Lend Lease" program and Edward R. Murrow contributed with his "This is London" radio reports. Finally after a strangling blockade by our military Japan was goaded into attacking one of our territories. (ever find it curious that the bulk of our fleet wasn't at Pearl Harbor at the time?)
Next thing you know FDR got what he wanted all along, all out world war.

Much the same with LBJ in S.E. Asia. Nobody had ever heard of the Gulf of Tonkin or that we even had "gunboats" there until one of them was possibly, maybe attacked. Next thing you know we had the Gulf of Tonkin resolution and "Good Morning Vietnam!"

I don't think many Americans were demanding another war until Saudi Arabia attacked New York in Sept. of 2001. All of a sudden came the demands that we DO SOMETHING.

So bomb the crap out of Afghanistan and pass the Iraq War Resolution and there we go again.

The public is so easy to manipulate.

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America supports military action? Wrong. [View all] WilliamPitt Sep 2014 OP

True, Sir: The Public Is Not Clamoring For War The Magistrate Sep 2014 #1

thanks for this. k&r cali Sep 2014 #2

Good to see you posting again panader0 Sep 2014 #17

thank you. cali Sep 2014 #19

Likewise here. mahina Sep 2014 #26

and by all indications the president will not have US troops doing ground fighting still_one Sep 2014 #3

air support being a euphemism for bombing. c'mon, if you're going to advocate it cali Sep 2014 #4

They are already doing that with Iraq, and Iran per BBC still_one Sep 2014 #6

I'm not shy abut it. Bomb the hell out of them. Why be shy? 7962 Sep 2014 #21

Yes, that has really worked elsewhere. former9thward Sep 2014 #28

Worked in WW2. Eventually the futility of losing sets in. 7962 Sep 2014 #31

No, it did not work. former9thward Sep 2014 #32

No, I'm not. And you can pick and choose your historians. 7962 Sep 2014 #35

You ignore the massive conventional bombing of Japan and throw in the A-Bomb. former9thward Sep 2014 #36

I said no. Vietnam just illustrates my point. We didnt bomb them to win 7962 Sep 2014 #38

K&R Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2014 #5

So airstrikes are outside your definition of "military action"? jeff47 Sep 2014 #7

Except that they seem to be dropping their support for Obama n2doc Sep 2014 #8

no, his support's falling because this war is his baby: closing ranks only encourages intervention MisterP Sep 2014 #20

So, overwhelming public support for air strikes, but not for sending in ground troops. Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #9

Are the televangelists leading hordes of the faithful Downwinder Sep 2014 #10

K & R Iliyah Sep 2014 #11

Why are airstrikes (74% support in WSJ poll, 76% in CNN poll) not military action to you? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #12

Because ... Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #18

Prior to 1941 the American people had no stomach for war Sopkoviak Sep 2014 #13

Ummmm, the bulk of the Pacific Fleet was at Pearl Harbor that fateful day, IronGate Sep 2014 #16

Once again, you are spot on with the facts. nt 7962 Sep 2014 #22

Thanks. IronGate Sep 2014 #29

The US military did not blockade Japan. We did impose export sanctions; 7962 Sep 2014 #24

"Finally after a strangling blockade by our military Japan was goaded into attacking.." EX500rider Sep 2014 #25

"Saudi Arabia attacked New York in Sept. of 2001" YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #33

I don't know what to think SnakeEyes Sep 2014 #14

Since you mentioned him, Beck WAS saying this was coming back then. 7962 Sep 2014 #23

KnR AtomicKitten Sep 2014 #15

knr Douglas Carpenter Sep 2014 #27

The bottom line of all polling is that the public does .not want combat troops,which is the very Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #30

Excellent analysis:) grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #34

A few months ago, a large majority was against war in Iraq.... kentuck Sep 2014 #37