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Luminous Animal

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Wed Sep 10, 2014, 04:12 PM Sep 2014

The Intercept: Obama's best hope against ISIS was just killed, so let's make friends with Iran [View all]

Obama’s non-Iranian options look particularly bleak after yesterday’s shocking assassination of one of Syria’s top anti-ISIS rebel commanders and dozens of his lieutenants. The commander, Hassan Abboud, was killed in an explosion during an underground meeting. So many members of his group, Ahrar al-Sham, were killed in the explosion that it’s now unclear whether it will continue to exist and provide a key counterweight to ISIS. Ahrar al-Sham was one of the best organized Syrian opposition factions aside from ISIS.

The loss of Abboud and his lieutenants only underlines the need for a reset of U.S. policy in the region. While American politicians have cast ISIS as a mortal threat to their country, the group’s primary conflict today is not with the United States — even if ISIS’s horrific beheadings of U.S. citizens served the group’s propaganda goals, and even if America’s catastrophic military adventurism facilitated its creation and ascendance.

No, ISIS’s real focus today is on expanding its territory by combating regional governments — Iraq and Syria at the moment — and by fending off rival militias. And it turns out this has done wonders for relations within the Middle East. For the first time in three years, the interests of Iran, Turkey, Syria, Qatar and Iraq are all aligned towards stifling the existential threat posed by the radical insurgency of ISIS. Even the Iranian and Saudi governments — normally bitter rivals — are seeking to set aside their differences to confront this rising danger.

Within this new political alignment lies Obama’s best hope for the military defeat of ISIS. The future of Abboud’s group is in doubt, the much-vaunted Kurdish Peshmerga has never mounted a successful offensive operation in its history, and the U.S-trained Iraqi Army has demonstrated its combat effectiveness by literally running at the sight of ISIS advances in Mosul. But there’s one party that has demonstrated both a willingness and ability to combat ISIS: Iran.


https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/10/americas-incomprehensible-isis-policy/
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Just like a leader of Afghan Anti-Taliban forces was taken out 9/9/2001. KeepItReal Sep 2014 #1
I think promoting and nurturing an alliance of Iran, Turkey, Syria, Qatar and Iraq is a Luminous Animal Sep 2014 #2
Totally - cilla4progress Sep 2014 #28
But that would mean abandoning plans to destroy Syria and Iran Scootaloo Sep 2014 #30
Your post was alerted on by someone, for non-existent malware just FYI /nt Dragonfli Sep 2014 #3
Thanks for letting me know! Luminous Animal Sep 2014 #4
I've seen a lot of this lately, it appears to be a new tactic Dragonfli Sep 2014 #6
Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #16
Okey-doke. Luminous Animal Sep 2014 #17
Weirdest most honest internet post I've ever seen. JaneyVee Sep 2014 #20
what were your previous usernames? nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #21
Didn't find any malware, strange alert imo. Rex Sep 2014 #5
It's a new tactic, I imagine it works upon occasion as some jurors Dragonfli Sep 2014 #7
kpete had a post hidden earlier this week on a fake malware alert... SidDithers Sep 2014 #8
Thanks, that sounds like a good Idea. /nt Dragonfli Sep 2014 #11
I'll send them the alert. Rex Sep 2014 #13
Thank you for posting to ATA. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #22
Isn't it amazing how we spent a decade trying to train a military SoCalDem Sep 2014 #9
Wait... you don't think the goal was to create a capable Iraqi military, do you?! Scootaloo Sep 2014 #31
make friends with Iran? Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #10
Why yes, I do believe that Murtaza Hussain knows what he is saying. Luminous Animal Sep 2014 #12
There are elements in Iran who insist that ISIS is a US invention to get THEM eventually. MADem Sep 2014 #19
Doesn't matter now. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #26
Not publicly, certainly. nt MADem Sep 2014 #27
The Iranian people don't seem to be all that much different from anyone else. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #14
it's long past time to stop pretending iran is an enemy and threat to the US KG Sep 2014 #15
You would think that would have happened... Oilwellian Sep 2014 #18
I'd just dump it at the doorstep of Tehran and leave it. roamer65 Sep 2014 #23
While much of what this says seems sensible, there are two things that seem less so karynnj Sep 2014 #24
Murtaza Hussain has been pushing for a friendship with the leaders of Iran for a while now oberliner Sep 2014 #25
Say it with me cilla4progress Sep 2014 #29
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