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Xolodno

(7,330 posts)
42. Utter baloney....
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 05:07 PM
Sep 2014

You stated: "Yanukovych was not removed........against his own will."

Oh and....this isn't RT...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10655398/Ukraine-crisis-Opposition-demands-Viktor-Yanukovych-resign.html

President Viktor Yanukovych said a coup was underway against him after he left Kiev for an eastern stronghold and the country's parliament debated a motion calling for his resignation.

In a televised statement on Saturday, he said he had no intention of resigning or leaving Ukraine, comparing the country's political crisis to the rise of the Nazis in the 1930s.

The opposition quickly seized control of both buildings, while the police announced they stood "with the people" and wanted "rapid changes"

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In other words...he didn't want to leave and the police who were essentially his last line of support...withdrew their support. They probably gave him an ultimatum. So with no protection or being informed he wouldn't have protection soon....he decided to save his ass. Kind of odd how after he left the police quickly switched sides and in less the 24 hours Parliament effectively removed him....

And the day after...he was in Karkhiv, were his power base was. If he was just going to outright bail, he could have flew to Moscow. But probably left for Russia after he realized that he was shit out of luck.


Also...not from RT:

http://www.smh.com.au/world/ousted-ukrainian-president-viktor-yanukovych-i-was-wrong-to-invite-russia-into-crimea-20140403-zqpxa.html


With tears welling in his eyes, Mr Yanukovych said he was ready to sacrifice his life during the escalating protests but realised that doing so would be simply a gift to the "neo-fascists" who he said seized power by force. He claimed they machine-gunned his convoy as he was leaving the Ukrainian capital.

"I didn't want to give them my life just for nothing," he said.

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Now...Yanu may be embellishing a bit, but I wouldn't be surprised they machine gunned his convoy. He implies he was forced out.

This coup also has some eerily similarities with this one...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Haitian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

Oh and your definition....is the narrow one...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/coup%20d%27etat?s=t

1.
a sudden and decisive action in politics, especially one resulting in a change of government illegally or by force.


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This is why Kissinger. Octafish Sep 2014 #1
DURec leftstreet Sep 2014 #2
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Ironically, in a piece called "Losing Credibility", the piece loses its own credibility.... Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #3
Michael Hudson Octafish Sep 2014 #4
That's lovely. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #23
Isn't it, though? Octafish Sep 2014 #26
If you define "integrity" as someone who blatantly lies in the face of truth, sure. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #27
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Calling it right in America in 2008 doesn't make him any less wrong.... Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #30
When so many people are saying the same thing, people who actually sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #31
Who are all the people claiming that there was a coup in Ukraine? Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #32
I'm saying the OPPOSITE. I'm saying that video evidence AND audio evidence of the coup sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #34
You are smart enough to realize that not all regime changes are "coups", correct? Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #35
Yanukovich was driven from his position as elected president of Ukraine by months of sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #37
Regardless of your personal charactarization of the Maidan protests, Yanukovych was not removed.... Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #38
Utter baloney.... Xolodno Sep 2014 #42
Yanukovych had a tendency of saying one thing and doing another. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #43
The fact it took him three days doesn't prove.. Xolodno Sep 2014 #44
You're playing fast and loose with the concept of a "coup" now. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #48
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