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1StrongBlackMan

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12. Is that what I said? ...

Reply to Scuba (Reply #2)

Wed Sep 10, 2014, 09:00 PM

Sep 2014

Here's the pertinent part of what I said:

want Democrats to act like ~~Democrats~~ "progressives", like me ...

Kind of changes the meaning from what you would have me saying ... doesn't it?

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Dear Democratic Leaders: I Propose a Cease-Fire [View all] MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 OP

Here ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #1

So you don't think progressives can be Democrats. Interesting. Scuba Sep 2014 #2

Well, at least he's not calling me a Libertarian or whatever MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #3

Is that what I said? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #12

Democrats, in your view, aren't progressives? LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #22

Twist it however you would like ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #35

Didn't have to twist anything LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #75

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #79

Moar Airquotes plz, "1StrongBlackMan" bobduca Sep 2014 #116

More internet stalking, bob. 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #137

two replies in a thread and im stalking you? give it a rest bobduca Sep 2014 #148

There are many Democrats who are not progressive hack89 Sep 2014 #92

So you think that doubling H1-B visas is a Democratic ideal? MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #5

I didn't say that either ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #14

Yes, you kinda did say that. nt MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #15

Uhh, No. I didn't. 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #16

But you're in favor of the President doubling H1-B visas, yes? MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #23

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #37

Well here's your opportunity to clarify your stand. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #68

Thank you for granting me audience ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #70

Really? I must have missed it in all the crap you were flinging at the OP. I would appreciate rhett o rick Sep 2014 #71

Go away. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #73

Are you supportive of giving away jobs to Corporate interests in order to ensure higher sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #29

Let me predict... MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #32

I don't know what he said. But I'm interested to know who is on the side of the working class sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #34

Well, congratulations ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #41

Personal attack. nt MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #48

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #49

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #38

So then you oppose what the President is about to do? Good, so do I. Unless those immigrant sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #40

Agreed ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #42

At my place of work Generic Other Sep 2014 #130

Good ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #133

I think it is a DC ideal- Both parties do it because both parties rely on big business for money Marrah_G Sep 2014 #27

I think you're right. MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #28

Why do you keep including yourself in the ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #43

You really have no idea, do you? MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #44

So your beef is ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #46

Is that why Elizabeth Warren fights for us? MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #47

I can't speak to them ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #52

That has zero to do with your disgusting attack MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #53

Truth Hurts? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #55

So Elizabeth Warren is the poster girl for white privilege? MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #56

Arguably so ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #57

Incredible. nt MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #58

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #62

You'll get a hidden post looooong before the self reflection happens Number23 Sep 2014 #64

Wow, you really have an axe to grind, don't you? Jester Messiah Sep 2014 #77

If that's what you got from that exchange ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #80

Call 'em like I see 'em. Jester Messiah Sep 2014 #98

And the person at the other end of the discussion? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #99

Ah, he started it, was that it? Jester Messiah Sep 2014 #100

Nope ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #101

But doesn't that just prove that you're not dismissing his argument on merit... Jester Messiah Sep 2014 #102

It goes to the veracity ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #105

Of course you will. Jester Messiah Sep 2014 #106

When someone has shown you ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #107

What that shows is a differing understanding of what "poor, working class" means. Jester Messiah Sep 2014 #108

To be clear ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #109

Please link to where - even once - I claimed to be poor MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #110

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #111

I looked up the definition, to make sure. MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #112

What did you look up? Surely, with your Ivy-league education ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #114

If you're so interested in "veracity," woo me with science Sep 2014 #125

Bwah! Today he is trying to discredit your input because you aren't poor? woo me with science Sep 2014 #118

So you finally decided to answer the "Save Manny" call ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #134

And you just keep digging. woo me with science Sep 2014 #138

What is "my case"? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #140

I never got the impression that the OP's posts were particularly self serving. If anything, Ed Suspicious Sep 2014 #151

Just so we are on the same page ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #156

Wow. You brought the awesome to this thread! Just don't quote Spinal Tap to msanthrope Sep 2014 #139

Spinal Tap? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #141

I'm not sure that logic will help with this one MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #146

Indeed..."this one." Did you just call a fellow DUer "this one?" msanthrope Sep 2014 #153

clearly, I'm a virulent Republican racist MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #157

Clearly, you have been called out on your white privilege by a strong msanthrope Sep 2014 #165

Very telling, don't you think? nt MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #166

Indeed, Manny...but not surprising. nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #168

As has been that of his fan club. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #171

They can't help their tone-deaf selves ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #170

Like a slow-motion self-immolation. woo me with science Sep 2014 #162

Finally ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #172

Man, i gotta tell you druidity33 Sep 2014 #93

An unnessary dig? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #96

Manny provokes... druidity33 Sep 2014 #97

That was nasty Le Taz Hot Sep 2014 #129

Thank you for debating the topic ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #135

See my blue edit to post 138. woo me with science Sep 2014 #142

Perhaps, if you should spent ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #145

"Save Manny" call MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #147

Ahhh ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #152

So my claims to MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #158

Okay, Manny ... How about we call a Truce ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #159

Changing the topic *and* adding a straw person MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #163

So I take it that's a "No." ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #167

. kwassa Sep 2014 #94

no but DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #173

What's in a name? ljm2002 Sep 2014 #11

+1 ReRe Sep 2014 #19

. rhett o rick Sep 2014 #76

+1000000000 woo me with science Sep 2014 #126

Thank you. Your post says a lot. Many now believe that the Democratic Party is not synonymous rhett o rick Sep 2014 #67

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #69

Today's Democratic Party LEADERS embraces foreign policy, economic policies, rhett o rick Sep 2014 #72

Okay, Please pass the greens. eom 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #74

I don't care what label you choose to hang on me, bvar22 Sep 2014 #86

Why would you suggest that ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #87

the "manifesto" I cited.... bvar22 Sep 2014 #89

Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #91

LOL .... so true, so true. kwassa Sep 2014 #95

Same divisive bullshit from you as always bobduca Sep 2014 #115

^^^^^^Yes, that's exactly what it is.^^^^^^ woo me with science Sep 2014 #121

"Ignore" works. eom 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #136

Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #149

I am a Democrat--and I also call myself a progressive and a "far-left" liberal. tblue37 Sep 2014 #150

Thank you for your reasonable response ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #154

btw 1 strong DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #164

Soemone was harassing me? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #169

Believe me, you are by no means the only one who noticed Number23 Sep 2014 #174

A pissed off K&R. 99Forever Sep 2014 #4

Centrist Democrats LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #25

I'd be willing to join the cease-fire on those terms. Laelth Sep 2014 #6

You have fallen victim to the "lump of labor fallacy". Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #7

I'm guessing you don't work in tech. Marr Sep 2014 #8

The final paragraph of that link sums it up nicely: MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #9

We are constantly being told... ljm2002 Sep 2014 #13

You appear to have fallen victim to thinking H1B visas are permanent. jeff47 Sep 2014 #18

After 6 years they bring in another foriegn scab. Tommymac Sep 2014 #31

"Another foreign scab"? Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #39

So much for losing MY JOB to cheap foreign labor. Tommymac Sep 2014 #45

Are these immigrants being paid the going rate they should be getting? Or are they working sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #30

They are paid less. woo me with science Sep 2014 #143

Businesses are not lobbying for more visas in order to pay imported workers prevailing wages. Orsino Sep 2014 #144

That is what I thought. Just asking because it needed to be made clear, thank you. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #160

Like bush unilaterally invaded onecaliberal Sep 2014 #10

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #17

, blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #20

Hope the people in the video BuelahWitch Sep 2014 #21

They negotiated a settlement with the feds, MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #24

Well, they *are* job creators! BuelahWitch Sep 2014 #26

What's all this racket? OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #33

Personal attack. nt MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #50

Alert it. (n/t) OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #51

They're no longer illegal MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #54

Damn. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #59

I'm having a great night. MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #60

Good tidings, then! OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #61

As yours will remain as a reminder, Sunny Jim. Jeff Rosenzweig Sep 2014 #63

Surely, as you say, the fault lies with publicizing the deed, MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #66

Soooo stealing this post. nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #78

. Bobbie Jo Sep 2014 #103

This boils down to woo me with science Sep 2014 #122

No, it boils down to STFU if you are an FDR Democrat Generic Other Sep 2014 #131

Don't you understand BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #132

Watch out--I got a post hidden because I quoted Spinal Tap to Manny. Some people msanthrope Sep 2014 #81

Not worried. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #82

I thought we had decided to merely decriminalize mentioning Rob Reiner films, rather msanthrope Sep 2014 #83

It's been left to the individual groups. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #84

In other words, "As they wish?" msanthrope Sep 2014 #85

Its Manny's version of the "War on Christmas" JoePhilly Sep 2014 #88

My job at the university in science was sadoldgirl Sep 2014 #36

Thanks, and that is what is being defended, replace American workers with cheap labor. A practice sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #161

He's powerless! BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #65

Seven of the ten top firms with H1-B Progressive dog Sep 2014 #90

That video . . . pa28 Sep 2014 #104

Why does activity meant to better the Democratic Party Shankapotomus Sep 2014 #113

Corporations using H1B visas ...saving money ...to give to congressional rats. L0oniX Sep 2014 #117

"How to Underpay H-1B Workers" OhioChick Sep 2014 #119

"The law only requires H-1B workers to be paid within 95% of the prevailing wage." woo me with science Sep 2014 #124

This has been going on for years and continues to OhioChick Sep 2014 #127

"Fed indictments tell how H-1B visas were used to undercut wages" OhioChick Sep 2014 #120

This should be an OP. woo me with science Sep 2014 #123

"This IT worker had to train an H-1B replacement" OhioChick Sep 2014 #128

Maybe ctsnowman Sep 2014 #155