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OnyxCollie

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27. Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media, by Noam Chomsky
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 02:30 AM
Sep 2014
Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media, by Noam Chomsky (talk delivered at the University of Wisconsin - Madison)

If you go back to the International Encyclopedia of Social Sciences published in 1933 -- days when people were a little more open and honest in what they said -- there's an article on propaganda, and it's well worth reading. There's an entry under propaganda. The entry is written by a leading- one- maybe the leading American political scientist, Harold Lasswell, who was very influential, particularly in this area, communications, and so on. And in this entry in the International Encyclopedia on propaganda he says, we should not succumb to democratic dogmatisms about men being the best judges of their own interests. They're not, he said. Even with the rise of mass education- doesn't mean that people can judge their own interests. They can't. The best judges of their interests are elites -- the specialized class, the cool observers, the people who have rationality -- and therefore they must be granted the means to impose their will. Notice, for the common good. Because, again, because- well, he says, because of the ignorance and superstition of the masses, he said it's necessary to have a whole new technique of control, largely through propaganda. Propaganda, he says, we shouldn't have a negative connotation about, it's neutral. Propaganda, he says, is as neutral as a pump handle. You can use it for good, you can use it for bad; since were good people, obviously, -- that's sort of true by definition -- we'll use it for good purposes, and there should be no negative connotations about that. In fact, it's moral to use it, because that's the only way that you can save the ignorant and stupid masses of the population from their own errors. You don't let a three year old run across the street, and you don't let ordinary people make their own decisions. You have to control them.

And why do you need propaganda? Well, he explains that. He says, in military-run or feudal societies -- what we would these days call totalitarian societies -- you don't really need propaganda that much. And the reason is you've got a- you've got a club in your hand. You can control the way people behave, and therefore it doesn't matter much what they think, because if they get out of line you can control them -- for their own good, of course. But once you lose the club, you know, once the State loses its capacity to coerce by force, then you have some problems. The voice of the people is heard -- you've got all these formal mechanisms around that permit people to express themselves, and even participate, and vote, and that sort of thing -- and you can't control them by force, because you've lost that capacity. But the voice of the people is heard, and therefore you've got to make sure it says the right thing. And in order to make sure it says the right thing, you've got to have effective and sophisticated propaganda, again, for their own good.

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thank you grasswire Sep 2014 #1
That's his highest priority as president. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #2
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS , FFS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ pkdu Sep 2014 #7
The military takes pretty much the same oath, to protect the US Constitution. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #14
I'm trying to understand your point... Old Crow Sep 2014 #30
Well said, Old Crow brush Sep 2014 #37
Thanks Old Crow Sep 2014 #46
His highest priority is to protect the Constitution, not the American people. Once you grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #49
I agree with your point... Old Crow Sep 2014 #50
+1 The OP is founded on a misunderstanding and ought to be retracted, IMHO. (EOM) Old Crow Sep 2014 #29
But yet he cannot identify an imminent threat to the U.S. . . . markpkessinger Sep 2014 #34
I KNEW somebody would really reach. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #41
Except he said there is no threat from IS to the US. morningfog Sep 2014 #42
+ infinity. raven mad Sep 2014 #44
However, more war in Iraq is not for protecting the American people. It is protecting Zorra Sep 2014 #54
Actually, yes, it is protecting the security of the American People. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #56
History of the last 13 years has proven you incorrect:) grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #60
I disagree. eom MohRokTah Sep 2014 #61
before we bombed: zero al-qaeda in Iraq. Now: 20,000-31,000. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #62
Exactly!!! factsarenotfair Sep 2014 #3
That's exactly what it means Boreal Sep 2014 #33
Have no fear, Fox will make sure everyone knows just how bad a president Obama is. Lancero Sep 2014 #4
Sorry not as simple as you would like to believe still_one Sep 2014 #5
+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #6
Indeed, and that is so sad.... arthritisR_US Sep 2014 #8
But ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #12
Predictable response. OnyxCollie Sep 2014 #22
"There’s a president for a reason." Enthusiast Sep 2014 #26
Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media, by Noam Chomsky OnyxCollie Sep 2014 #27
+100000 Propaganda, propaganda, propaganda. woo me with science Sep 2014 #63
I just scanned all that Boreal Sep 2014 #35
The extremes look at life in black and white. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #9
That's for sure, which is why they can think of only one solution to everything, sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #17
Yeah, it kinda is. Defending the Constitution is his highest priority. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #16
Not as simple ad the president said, you mean. Orsino Sep 2014 #53
Well of course he got it wrong.... sheshe2 Sep 2014 #10
no, Obama got it right JI7 Sep 2014 #11
Now this is just getting silly. nt pinboy3niner Sep 2014 #13
Defending the Constitution is the oath our troops take too. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #15
Remember when we used to remind Bush supporters of this? And they called us all kinds of names sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #18
Yes, I once swore that. But I don't see how this advances the policy debate. nt pinboy3niner Sep 2014 #19
Getting silly? We've been serving out the All-You-Can Eat Silly Buffet since January 2009. nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #38
+1... SidDithers Sep 2014 #48
Gimme a break. What the hell is wrong with saying that? C Moon Sep 2014 #20
Yeah, no MFrohike Sep 2014 #21
But Roberts administered the oath like a bumbling idiot, so maybe Mr. President forgot that line. lonestarnot Sep 2014 #23
and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United Stat blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #24
Oh my GOD Number23 Sep 2014 #25
I have to admire the limberness that allowed that stretch. nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #40
Exactly... SidDithers Sep 2014 #55
K&R Important post. woo me with science Sep 2014 #28
Where, in your quote from the Constitution, is the term "highest priority" used? intaglio Sep 2014 #31
'As' Commander-in-chief. You want to parse words, you didn't do very well. randome Sep 2014 #32
Talk about obfuscation...you're OP is a great example. aikoaiko Sep 2014 #36
You should be President...nt SidDithers Sep 2014 #39
I'll alert the media. n/t Lil Missy Sep 2014 #43
The Constitution starts "We The People" treestar Sep 2014 #45
In my view, you've got it backwards, it's the security of the Constitution, that guarantees the grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #52
this is true treestar Sep 2014 #57
And what does the constitution command the President to do? Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #47
#1 though, is protect our Constitution. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #59
There it is, the "Goering Model". "You are threatened; we must go to war". Zorra Sep 2014 #51
kick woo me with science Sep 2014 #58
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