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Old Crow

(2,268 posts)
30. I'm trying to understand your point...
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 04:12 AM
Sep 2014

... and not succeeding. Allow me to explain why I'm confused.

Surely you would agree that being president of the United States entails more than one responsibility, yes? It's not like the POTUS can say, OK, in my presidency, all I'm going to worry about is domestic policy--that and nothing else.

Of course not. Being POTUS, you wear many hats.

If you can agree with the above--and surely you can--I don't see how you can argue, as you do, that the POTUS has "one job." The role comprises many jobs or roles or functions, whatever noun you care to use. Certainly, the execution of all those jobs must be consistent with the presidential oath of office. But so long as the oath of office isn't being violated, I think it's obvious that each of those roles would have a different priority.

If I were to whiteboard this, it would look something like this:

OATH OF OFFICE: To preserve and protect the Constitution of the United States of America, while executing the following roles:
1. Promoter of domestic policy. Top priority: Enhance the well-being of the nation via appropriate legislation.
2. Promoter of international policy. Top priority: Enhance the well-being of the nation via treaties and diplomacy.
3. Champion of the bully pulpit. Top Priority: Champion ideas and policies in the public sphere that will strengthen the nation.
4. Commander-in-Chief. Top priority: The security of the American people.

Obama simply stated "As Commander-in-Chief, my highest priority is the security of the American people."

I have no idea why a dozen or more DUers are wigging out about this. Do you really think that Obama and his speechwriters are unaware of the presidential oath of office? Do you really think they slipped up here and that this is some kind of a "gotcha" moment? Seriously?

Apparently, the opening statement you were looking for the president to deliver was as follows:

"As Commander-in-Chief, my highest priority is the security of the American people--and let me hasten to add, that highest priority applies only to the role of Commander-in-Chief, as I've just stated, and is subservient to the overarching priority of the presidential oath of office; I want to be perfectly clear about that distinction for my friends at Fox News and for about a dozen members of Democratic Underground who are likely to misunderstand my intentions without that caveat."

~sigh~



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thank you grasswire Sep 2014 #1
That's his highest priority as president. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #2
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS , FFS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ pkdu Sep 2014 #7
The military takes pretty much the same oath, to protect the US Constitution. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #14
I'm trying to understand your point... Old Crow Sep 2014 #30
Well said, Old Crow brush Sep 2014 #37
Thanks Old Crow Sep 2014 #46
His highest priority is to protect the Constitution, not the American people. Once you grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #49
I agree with your point... Old Crow Sep 2014 #50
+1 The OP is founded on a misunderstanding and ought to be retracted, IMHO. (EOM) Old Crow Sep 2014 #29
But yet he cannot identify an imminent threat to the U.S. . . . markpkessinger Sep 2014 #34
I KNEW somebody would really reach. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #41
Except he said there is no threat from IS to the US. morningfog Sep 2014 #42
+ infinity. raven mad Sep 2014 #44
However, more war in Iraq is not for protecting the American people. It is protecting Zorra Sep 2014 #54
Actually, yes, it is protecting the security of the American People. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #56
History of the last 13 years has proven you incorrect:) grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #60
I disagree. eom MohRokTah Sep 2014 #61
before we bombed: zero al-qaeda in Iraq. Now: 20,000-31,000. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #62
Exactly!!! factsarenotfair Sep 2014 #3
That's exactly what it means Boreal Sep 2014 #33
Have no fear, Fox will make sure everyone knows just how bad a president Obama is. Lancero Sep 2014 #4
Sorry not as simple as you would like to believe still_one Sep 2014 #5
+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #6
Indeed, and that is so sad.... arthritisR_US Sep 2014 #8
But ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #12
Predictable response. OnyxCollie Sep 2014 #22
"There’s a president for a reason." Enthusiast Sep 2014 #26
Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media, by Noam Chomsky OnyxCollie Sep 2014 #27
+100000 Propaganda, propaganda, propaganda. woo me with science Sep 2014 #63
I just scanned all that Boreal Sep 2014 #35
The extremes look at life in black and white. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #9
That's for sure, which is why they can think of only one solution to everything, sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #17
Yeah, it kinda is. Defending the Constitution is his highest priority. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #16
Not as simple ad the president said, you mean. Orsino Sep 2014 #53
Well of course he got it wrong.... sheshe2 Sep 2014 #10
no, Obama got it right JI7 Sep 2014 #11
Now this is just getting silly. nt pinboy3niner Sep 2014 #13
Defending the Constitution is the oath our troops take too. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #15
Remember when we used to remind Bush supporters of this? And they called us all kinds of names sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #18
Yes, I once swore that. But I don't see how this advances the policy debate. nt pinboy3niner Sep 2014 #19
Getting silly? We've been serving out the All-You-Can Eat Silly Buffet since January 2009. nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #38
+1... SidDithers Sep 2014 #48
Gimme a break. What the hell is wrong with saying that? C Moon Sep 2014 #20
Yeah, no MFrohike Sep 2014 #21
But Roberts administered the oath like a bumbling idiot, so maybe Mr. President forgot that line. lonestarnot Sep 2014 #23
and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United Stat blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #24
Oh my GOD Number23 Sep 2014 #25
I have to admire the limberness that allowed that stretch. nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #40
Exactly... SidDithers Sep 2014 #55
K&R Important post. woo me with science Sep 2014 #28
Where, in your quote from the Constitution, is the term "highest priority" used? intaglio Sep 2014 #31
'As' Commander-in-chief. You want to parse words, you didn't do very well. randome Sep 2014 #32
Talk about obfuscation...you're OP is a great example. aikoaiko Sep 2014 #36
You should be President...nt SidDithers Sep 2014 #39
I'll alert the media. n/t Lil Missy Sep 2014 #43
The Constitution starts "We The People" treestar Sep 2014 #45
In my view, you've got it backwards, it's the security of the Constitution, that guarantees the grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #52
this is true treestar Sep 2014 #57
And what does the constitution command the President to do? Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #47
#1 though, is protect our Constitution. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #59
There it is, the "Goering Model". "You are threatened; we must go to war". Zorra Sep 2014 #51
kick woo me with science Sep 2014 #58
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