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Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
106. Amazing
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 05:59 AM
Sep 2014

Either you don't know what kind of security demands such an honor entail, or you haven't ever endured it. Atlanta has exceedingly busy roads and highways. President Clinton visited more than two times while I was living in Atlanta. The disruption to traffic alone was catastrophic. Shutting down the interstate and the roads from when his convoy was due to travel, until he had actually traveled caused incredible delays and problems that lasted for hours.

It may seem like no big deal to have the road closed for fifteen minutes, or even an hour. But those closures caused accidents further up stream, and traffic jams that lasted for hours later.

Now, lets say you were the manager of the club in question. You have tee times booked weeks in advance for the LABOR DAY HOLIDAY WEEKEND. Remember, it's a holiday weekend. The Country Club is going to be very busy as well with several scheduled events. Less than a week before these things are going to happen, probably no more than a few days, you are called up and asked if you can cancel all of those things, a hundred tee times or so, and a half dozen events at the clubhouse, so President Obama can go around the links.

Honestly, if you say yes, you're going to be fired the next week. Because the people who pay your salary, the club membership, are not going to be happy that they arrive at the clubhouse and find police with the gates closed. Their plans made weeks in advance are going to be completely screwed up. They are not going to be happy, and they are going to demand answers like why did you book them a tee time in July when you knew you couldn't accommodate them? If you manage to keep your job, you will be dealing with complaints for the next several weeks.

Yes, it's an honor to host the President. If the President had asked to golf on a Tuesday, any normal weekday, I'd agree that there was something wrong with them saying no. But remember, it was the LABOR DAY HOLIDAY WEEKEND." Nobody is going to bring everything to a screeching halt to accommodate one guy. I mentioned Disneyland in another response. Seriously, would Disneyland shut everything down for the day to let the President go around the park? The answer is no. It wouldn't matter if the President was one of Roy Disney's Grandkids. They wouldn't do it because it would cause problems for months with people complaining and demanding free days in compensation.

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sounds more like a money thing to me strawberries Sep 2014 #1
Eh. With security and celebrity status, a course would have to virtually shut down. randome Sep 2014 #2
I know a lot of folks at Beverly and they were there when the President was there AngryAmish Sep 2014 #53
Okay, good information. But Labor Day weekend may have been more crowded than usual. randome Sep 2014 #60
Isn't Labor Day one of the busiest days for golf courses? Calista241 Sep 2014 #101
Yes - and tee times are typically booked months in advance Ruby the Liberal Sep 2014 #124
apparently clinton was also rejected when he was president. La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #3
I sort of recall that... joeybee12 Sep 2014 #41
Those damn racists. bigwillq Sep 2014 #59
i think they would have closed the course for bush samsingh Sep 2014 #4
More likely an anti-Dem Republican thing. nt tblue37 Sep 2014 #11
This tazkcmo Sep 2014 #31
Dumb of them, though. Bad optics, considering the history of tblue37 Sep 2014 #69
They need an audit. conservaphobe Sep 2014 #5
What utter nonsense yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #8
It is unconscionable that any President be treated in this manner. conservaphobe Sep 2014 #10
Ok I would accommodate any President yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #13
As I said, there's never a justifiable excuse to turn away the leader of our nation. conservaphobe Sep 2014 #17
Oh boy! Wrong!!!!!! yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #21
he's not a king, just a public employee who brings a huge entourage msongs Sep 2014 #25
Yeah, 'cuz golf courses are non-profit outfits. WillowTree Sep 2014 #81
There's no way any course makes $80,000 in four hours for one thing. Kingofalldems Sep 2014 #40
Thanks! yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #42
That's a great story about FR. Kingofalldems Sep 2014 #62
Yeah same here. Rex Sep 2014 #64
Your ignored. Causing trouble is not interesting. yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #75
I certainly won't be ignoring you. Kingofalldems Sep 2014 #76
the members of these clubs pay about 100 grand in fees just to join cali Sep 2014 #44
Nice post, Hugh Moran. Orrex Sep 2014 #61
Ah, no we don't. I've seen it but rarely. Kingofalldems Sep 2014 #63
They still have members who pay a lot to join. Travis_0004 Sep 2014 #49
That's hugh! RandiFan1290 Sep 2014 #46
Why? He's President, not King. Codeine Sep 2014 #14
No other nation on the planet would allow disrespect of their leader in such a manner. conservaphobe Sep 2014 #22
That's beyond silly. Codeine Sep 2014 #32
you've departed from any semblance of.... sense. cali Sep 2014 #36
Dafuq? Egnever Sep 2014 #65
You sound irrational at this point. LanternWaste Sep 2014 #74
get a grip, he isn't a king....it's GOLF Marrah_G Sep 2014 #85
Authoritarians crack me up. Marr Sep 2014 #98
I will say heaven05 Sep 2014 #143
lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tazkcmo Sep 2014 #33
Why is that? ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #52
If you don't genuflect... Dr. Strange Sep 2014 #67
fucking ridiculous why the fuck should a club boot off people cali Sep 2014 #18
The commander-in-chief of the largest military on the planet was turned away. conservaphobe Sep 2014 #24
With no 'repercussions'?? B2G Sep 2014 #26
oh baloney. seriously? you think that because the President didn't get to boot a lot of cali Sep 2014 #27
You are making DU look weak tkmorris Sep 2014 #43
What repercussions do you suggest would be appropriate? Throd Sep 2014 #51
Obviously Obama should have sent in tanks, send the Navy Seals in to make sure the mythology Sep 2014 #115
It wouldn't make us look weak, it would make us look like North Korea. Quackers Sep 2014 #56
Dictators make peons suffer if they don't bow low enough. Democratically elected tblue37 Sep 2014 #71
Now you're just trolling. Stop making yourself look foolish. nt Codeine Sep 2014 #83
So, what would you suggest? Fla_Democrat Sep 2014 #100
They would have had to stop doing normal business on a holiday weekend Yo_Mama Sep 2014 #95
Many threads on this yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #6
No, racism is the only possible explanation Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #9
If it makes you feel better believing that. yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #19
one could take that sig line two ways, I suppose Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2014 #35
What sig line? yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #38
it would appear that Capt. Obvious in not quite so obvious as he appears ... Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2014 #45
"Whites only" clubs? LordGlenconner Sep 2014 #7
I know Westchester. I grew up in neighboring Fairfield County. cali Sep 2014 #12
His team tried on Friday to get a tee time for Sat a.m. ?... Whiskeytide Sep 2014 #15
Amazing how many people who don't belong to a Golf Club no for certain what happened... brooklynite Sep 2014 #16
I have know idea RandiFan1290 Sep 2014 #47
Racism? Hardly. B2G Sep 2014 #20
I find it interesting that you scream that this is racist cali Sep 2014 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Sep 2014 #28
Obama must have realized he was making a difficult request, else why call 3+ courses? . . . Journeyman Sep 2014 #29
Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #30
This thread is going the way of creative speculation Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #34
Who leaked the story? BKH70041 Sep 2014 #37
IDK. But the media always promotes their 'Everyone hates Obama' meme. freshwest Sep 2014 #88
That seems to be the opinion of many here. BKH70041 Sep 2014 #102
'Irrelevant.' And you have no source for your claim about the WH or any other reasons. EOM. freshwest Sep 2014 #103
It's a matter of elimination. BKH70041 Sep 2014 #109
Oh baby, Wellstone ruled Sep 2014 #39
racist? jesus, i can't believe you went there ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2014 #48
6 years of racism heaven05 Sep 2014 #86
if every incident ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2014 #89
right heaven05 Sep 2014 #93
obvious in its intent, aye? ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2014 #94
Actually I don't think this has to do with race Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #50
shhh... you'll be called a racist... n/t ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2014 #96
I would tell the President: thanks, but no thanks. And it's not because I am racist. bigwillq Sep 2014 #54
A lot of paces don't have tee times AngryAmish Sep 2014 #55
They still have members who were looking forward to playing golf Travis_0004 Sep 2014 #78
Those courses are booked weeks, if not months, in advance for Labor Day weekend. WillowTree Sep 2014 #84
They could probably squeeze him in though treestar Sep 2014 #104
Obama probably took the incident with a grain of salt. BlueJazz Sep 2014 #57
I wonder why they didn't just do a "rolling blackout" on the course? MADem Sep 2014 #58
Who are "they" in your last sentence? Hard to tell whom you are accusing of tblue37 Sep 2014 #72
And then publicized same. mahina Sep 2014 #66
This is hard to believe. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #68
In the middle of the week probably not. Savannahmann Sep 2014 #70
Nikita Kruschev wanted to visit Disneyland in 1959. He was told no . . . Journeyman Sep 2014 #92
Sorry, but the members have rights. badtoworse Sep 2014 #73
Would Dubya Bush have been allowed to play at any of those golf courses during Labor Day Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #77
YES. AND YES. Rex Sep 2014 #79
OF course treestar Sep 2014 #105
He can play at any of the DoD operated courses Crabby Appleton Sep 2014 #80
One of the biggest golf weekends of the year Ruby the Liberal Sep 2014 #82
The minimizing of this incident heaven05 Sep 2014 #87
Where do you get racism in this? Ruby the Liberal Sep 2014 #91
I thought your post was ok kcr Sep 2014 #108
I am not defending the 1% Ruby the Liberal Sep 2014 #117
Of course it might seem ridiculous to those who know how things work in their world kcr Sep 2014 #119
Good point Ruby the Liberal Sep 2014 #122
I'm not focusing on the 1%. I'm not adding a darn thing. kcr Sep 2014 #125
Courses run the gamut Ruby the Liberal Sep 2014 #128
Institutions with inherent racism don't deserve kneejerk defense either kcr Sep 2014 #130
The "institution" here where I live Ruby the Liberal Sep 2014 #132
I'm doing no such thing kcr Sep 2014 #134
what sport, basketball, football heaven05 Sep 2014 #142
Oh, come on. What BS. Yo_Mama Sep 2014 #99
yep, yep heaven05 Sep 2014 #110
Something tells me that if a person of color Ruby the Liberal Sep 2014 #118
well, false equivalency is a typical ploy heaven05 Sep 2014 #133
Do you really believe this nonsense? tritsofme Sep 2014 #121
See post #127 heaven05 Sep 2014 #131
I'm with you on this, malaise. Octafish Sep 2014 #90
Amazing Savannahmann Sep 2014 #106
much BS heaven05 Sep 2014 #112
Your forgot something. Savannahmann Sep 2014 #114
obama is president, not King. Travis_0004 Sep 2014 #107
same goes toyou heaven05 Sep 2014 #113
Such silliness. You are either engaging in parody tritsofme Sep 2014 #123
very silly heaven05 Sep 2014 #127
What racial factors were in play when President Clinton was similarly denied in the 90s? tritsofme Sep 2014 #136
and a pig with lipstick is still a pig heaven05 Sep 2014 #137
So you don't care to address the analogous situation with President Clinton? tritsofme Sep 2014 #138
nothing silly heaven05 Sep 2014 #139
A simple "no, I don't want to talk about Clinton because it makes my ridiculous tritsofme Sep 2014 #140
+1000 heaven05 Sep 2014 #111
I truly could not give a crap cwydro Sep 2014 #97
How are they racist for wanting to avoid the huge disruption that would result Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #116
yeah, yeah heaven05 Sep 2014 #141
fuck them. spanone Sep 2014 #120
lol, how dare those clubs decide against disrupting hundreds tritsofme Sep 2014 #126
lol. that one person is the President of the u.s. fucking assholes yes. spanone Sep 2014 #129
And...so what? Our leaders are citizens, not royalty. tritsofme Sep 2014 #135
IT...now wait for it........????? heaven05 Sep 2014 #144
Nonsense. tritsofme Sep 2014 #145
Everything that happens doesn't have to be about race. WillowTree Sep 2014 #146
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