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sabrina 1

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62. I think more and more people are beginning to understand this.

Thu Sep 11, 2014, 12:23 PM

Sep 2014

Who are these people we did not elect? And how can this country bring them to justice? I just read eg, that in a case brought against Bush/Cheney and his gang of war criminals by an Iraqi woman, the DOJ stepped in and claimed that they were 'immune' from prosecution since their actions were taken as part of their job description, or some such nonsense. But what it said was that 'war crimes are part of the job description'. I have to say I never realized that when voters elect those they choose as leaders they were giving them the green light to commit war crimes.

Now we know!

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Obama Makes Bushism the New Normal [View all] Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 OP

And we won't get much of a change, if any, under a Hillary administration because Hillary is to the Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #1

You might want to tune into Scandal starting 9/25 on ABC underthematrix Sep 2014 #8

ah, the word police ... shireen Sep 2014 #11

LOL! That's what I'm thinking too underthematrix Sep 2014 #16

You think Presidents matter? NightWatcher Sep 2014 #2

I don't think this line of thinking gets enough air. I agree that those that call the shots don't rhett o rick Sep 2014 #5

Obama is a beer vendor at the SuperBowl NightWatcher Sep 2014 #6

he got promoted recently Enrique Sep 2014 #7

that's it underthematrix Sep 2014 #9

Spot on - this was all part of the plan by the real shot-callers Doctor_J Sep 2014 #12

Yes. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #42

I think more and more people are beginning to understand this. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #62

I find it astonishing that you do not realize a lot of the underthematrix Sep 2014 #3

How often is a government program, bureaucracy Sopkoviak Sep 2014 #4

What has been institutionalized under Obama? Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #10

Well just off the top of my head. zeemike Sep 2014 #21

Where is the incidence of torture? Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #22

In the past and unpunished. zeemike Sep 2014 #23

Is this your example of torture? This is not the same as water boarding, etc. This would be an Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #24

How about the force feeding of prisoners at Gitmo? zeemike Sep 2014 #28

Let's get serious, torture under the Geneva convention definition. Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #30

"not torture though painful" zeemike Sep 2014 #32

Icould care less what Bush said or did not say about torture but to liken water boarding with Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #33

I likened force feeding to torture, and it is. zeemike Sep 2014 #36

I wish you understand the depth of water boarding but you throw it around like stumping one's toe, Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #43

yes BobbyBoring Sep 2014 #46

Your opinion is noted librechik Sep 2014 #52

yes it is torture G_j Sep 2014 #70

ThinkProgress: U.N. Official Says Gitmo Force-Feeding Violates International Law Sopkoviak Sep 2014 #27

I force feeding included in the Geneva Convention? Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #35

Take it up with the UN and Think Progress then Sopkoviak Sep 2014 #40

I will continue to agree with the Geneva Convention, I don't need to take this to either, Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #44

Eeyup. hifiguy Sep 2014 #13

Uh, remember all the bush implants put in key positions before he left office? Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #14

Obama hasn't done much to get rid of those guys FiveGoodMen Sep 2014 #15

Actually, President is one man, yes President but one man underthematrix Sep 2014 #17

He has nominated judges and other positions which the GOP continue to filibuster Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #18

Not any more. former9thward Sep 2014 #20

nope, it ended for THAT ONE JUDGE Appointment. librechik Sep 2014 #54

Harry did change that. former9thward Sep 2014 #57

Not totally--just technically, I suppose. But then all or nothing thinking like your post librechik Sep 2014 #60

First you quote an article before the rule change. former9thward Sep 2014 #61

oh, right, I remember now. It only affects judges. librechik Sep 2014 #63

'aye 840high Sep 2014 #19

I think he did--but Congress is blocking ALL his nominees librechik Sep 2014 #53

Our Democratic Party Structure is the most at fault. KoKo Sep 2014 #38

Oh please, Obama is powerless Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #25

Please Capt' Obvious... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #26

But at the same time-- you better vote for whatever corporate stooge they put up next time Marr Sep 2014 #69

oh look another lazy-ass "Obama=Bush" clickbait article. nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #29

A 'constitutional scholar,' too. Octafish Sep 2014 #31

Most of our "intellectuals" and leaders on the Left are along for the ride, too. Little criticism. Romulox Sep 2014 #34

So he should be impeached, right? NYC Liberal Sep 2014 #37

... SidDithers Sep 2014 #39

don't buy it RussBLib Sep 2014 #41

On a side note, can you all finally admit I was right about Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #45

And now a new war of choice. woo me with science Sep 2014 #47

You gone and done it now. Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #48

The only solution is nonviolent world revolution. The 1% owns/is our elected leadership. nt Zorra Sep 2014 #49

I concur. Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #50

+1 woo me with science Sep 2014 #66

Now we don't even go to the U.N. to make a case and get a resolution. KurtNYC Sep 2014 #51

You should file a lawsuit against Obummer!!!1 nt tridim Sep 2014 #55

Is This Barack Obama's 2nd Term? Is it Bill Clinton's 3rd? Or Is It Ronald Reagan's 9th? Octafish Sep 2014 #56

I vote Ronald Reagan's ninth. woo me with science Sep 2014 #65

GWH Bush's 9th if ya asks me. (nt) Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #67

Fuck everyone painting Obama as worse than Bush. Fuck them ALL. n/t Avalux Sep 2014 #58

It is a well-known social phenomenon rock Sep 2014 #59

Kick. Off to Syria. woo me with science Sep 2014 #64

Constitution, schmonstitution. "Just a goddamned piece of paper" woo me with science Sep 2014 #68

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #71