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amandabeech

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8. This article's characterization of Richard Engel's reporting from Iraq is accurate.
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 02:40 PM
Sep 2014

I don't know if Engel's statements after Obama's speech are available online somewhere, but for those who didn't see him last night, it would be worthwhile to search them out.

Engel characterized our activities in Yemen and Somalia as sporadic. We do some surveillance, and when we find what we think is a terrorist operation, we act. In the case of Yemen, we report to the Yemeni government, and Yemeni troops will go in or the Yemeni government will ask us to go in.

In Iraq, we will be involved in these operations constantly and simultaneously.

Engel also stated that the Iraqi Army simply would not be able to do the job that our President outlined. Engel said essentially that the Iraqi Army is a Shiite army led by Iranian Army personnel. The Iraqis living under ISIL rule or in danger of being taken over by ISIL are Sunnis who have had terrible experiences with Iraqi Shiites and who absolutely hate Iran. Engel said that they will not let Iranian led Iraqi Shiites into their villages.

ISIL armies are led in part by Sunni leaders of Sadam Hussein's Baathist army and by Sunnis that the US trained. No matter how evil ISIL is, to Iraqi Sunnis, armies led by Iraqi Sunnis will be more welcome than an Iranian led Iraqi Shiite army.

Engel was so upset by the President's characterization of the situation on the ground that he looked like he was actually shaking with emotion.

If Engel is right, and it seems that he most often is, it would appear that our President has not been hearing anything like what Engel is saying. That's very much like the "stove-piping" of information to the Shrub before the invasion of Iraq in 2003. It's hard to believe that the President would let that happen, but I am concerned.

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So comparing this to Yemen and Somalia is an over simplification ... JoePhilly Sep 2014 #1
LOL....so true Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #7
Can see it all over DU today as well. JoePhilly Sep 2014 #10
They talked about the so called comparison of ISIS to Yemen and Somalia in that same program. jwirr Sep 2014 #28
Right ... which makes sense. JoePhilly Sep 2014 #29
Our boots are on the ground everywhere we see an interest newthinking Sep 2014 #2
a financial interest SummerSnow Sep 2014 #4
Yeah we didn't need Engel to tell us that. Obama told us that. Schema Thing Sep 2014 #3
Sounds like they're engaged in intelligence gathering MineralMan Sep 2014 #5
Precisely. Somebody's gotta be there to run the equipment, send back the logistics, and coordinate. msanthrope Sep 2014 #9
Oddly enough, that's just what the article at the link says. MineralMan Sep 2014 #12
Perhaps the OP did not read the whole article, merely the excerpt they put up. I'd like to think msanthrope Sep 2014 #14
All too often, OPs are posted after only a cursory glance MineralMan Sep 2014 #15
I find this one of the more disconcerting aspects of some OPs. Quality, not quantity, is a laudable msanthrope Sep 2014 #22
Yes. I do too. MineralMan Sep 2014 #23
Headline changing often indicates agenda-driven OPing. As for demonstrating a lack of knowledge msanthrope Sep 2014 #24
The U S has military personnel in one hundred thirty nations. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #6
This article's characterization of Richard Engel's reporting from Iraq is accurate. amandabeech Sep 2014 #8
Richard Engel has struck me, for a long time, as being slightly...off... TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #17
Engel is one of the more erudite reporters around with a deep knowledge of the region and cali Sep 2014 #20
He's not a reporter anymore. All he does is editorialize. I watched an interview TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #21
Check reply #25. It might answer some of your questions. n/t amandabeech Sep 2014 #27
He was clearly very troubled about the President's plan, amandabeech Sep 2014 #26
what revelation? drray23 Sep 2014 #11
Everyone KNows Special Operations Types Are Present, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2014 #13
Special forces are everywhere. TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #16
Yeaaaaahhhh...we already knew this, Mr. Engel. nt ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2014 #18
I saw this interview last nite and was wondering wtf was with him? Lawrence O'Donnell asked Engel jillan Sep 2014 #19
Richard Engel was kidnapped in Syria himself bklyncowgirl Sep 2014 #25
That attitude in your last sentence is an old one and honorable. My uncle who faught in Korea jwirr Sep 2014 #30
It was fascinating to me that Lawrence even thought to ask him that question & jillan Sep 2014 #31
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