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TwilightGardener

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66. I'm not enthusiastic about any of it. But I also don't see the US watching

Thu Sep 11, 2014, 06:27 PM

Sep 2014

idly as big parts of Iraq, and then possibly Baghdad and the Green Zone and all the shit we built over there, fall to these guys. And watch our citizens beheaded because we helped take back the Mosul Dam and helped the Yazidis, with no retaliation on our part--no, not going to happen. Of course we're going to intervene.

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Why ISIS and not Boko Haram? [View all] cali Sep 2014 OP

Excellent question Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #1

I'm not sure of the answer. I think it's because- or partially because- cali Sep 2014 #3

Exactly Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #8

because of the beheadings Enrique Sep 2014 #2

I think that's a factor, perhaps, but I don't think that's the main reason. cali Sep 2014 #5

Saudi Arabia beheaded 4 people this week... and they are our allies. SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #65

ISIS killed Americans meow2u3 Sep 2014 #4

Isis seems more international JI7 Sep 2014 #6

Boko Haram has been less successful. It's not in a position geek tragedy Sep 2014 #7

OK- not that I completely agree- but how is BH less evil than ISIS? cali Sep 2014 #10

I don't think they are any less intrinsically evil. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #16

They're saving Boko Haram CJCRANE Sep 2014 #9

sigh. and who knows what other groups will arise in what other countries? cali Sep 2014 #12

The MIC couldn't let the Prez wipe out Al Qaeda CJCRANE Sep 2014 #17

This. ^^^ CrispyQ Sep 2014 #31

Given Nigeria's Status As An Oil Producer, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2014 #11

thanks for that addition. good points about cover and motorized infantry. cali Sep 2014 #14

Practicality Always Weighs Heavily With Me, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2014 #18

I don't see how you can reasonably (practically) come to the conclusion cali Sep 2014 #23

Breaking I.S.I.L. In Its Present Form, Ma'am, Can Be Readily Done The Magistrate Sep 2014 #30

we'll see. Kerry doesn't seem to agree with you. He says it will be a 3 year campaign cali Sep 2014 #32

I Said Nothing About Time Frame, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2014 #35

readily implies in short order, Sir. cali Sep 2014 #37

I Take A Fairly Long View Of Things, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2014 #38

We'll get round to it in a couple of years. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #24

What matters is not how evil they are, but how much good opposing them would do. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2014 #64

Loved that band rock Sep 2014 #13

You Salty Dog Orrex Sep 2014 #15

I started to say "Matador" rock Sep 2014 #20

Ebola? nt littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #19

Boko Haram doesn't have surface to air missiles. eom MohRokTah Sep 2014 #21

IS does? That's the measure? morningfog Sep 2014 #27

Kicking. Thanks, cali. nt littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #22

It is my understanding marym625 Sep 2014 #25

Because ISIS is sitting on top of oil. n/t woodsprite Sep 2014 #26

So is Boko Haram. eom MohRokTah Sep 2014 #46

Are They a Present or Future Nuclear Threat? TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #28

Because we have a cable news cycle foreign policy Chathamization Sep 2014 #29

good points. n/t cali Sep 2014 #34

True but the Potus never suggested airstrikes treestar Sep 2014 #36

The argument you are attacking is a very bad one. Vattel Sep 2014 #33

What resources does Nigeria have that we care about? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #39

oil. cali Sep 2014 #41

Not as much as Iraq TBF Sep 2014 #44

Winner BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #68

Because Bagdhad can't be allowed to fall Astrad Sep 2014 #40

The crisis in Iraq with pictures - TBF Sep 2014 #42

I have wondered that from the start. It occurred to me that both Boko Haram and ISIS are well jwirr Sep 2014 #43

Europe is not as dependent on energy from Nigeria. Laelth Sep 2014 #45

I thought we were ensnared by both of those douchebag prom queens. librechik Sep 2014 #47

I'm so glad to see you posting again and asking the Autumn Sep 2014 #48

Send Nigeria the military equipment our cops got! Dustlawyer Sep 2014 #49

Largely because we've always ignored Nigeria. malthaussen Sep 2014 #50

I see you just tried to apply some humbled_opinion Sep 2014 #51

This is a question I have wondered about myself. nt ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2014 #52

I invite you to consider my post, #45, above. n/t Laelth Sep 2014 #53

Good question cali, I'll add another saidsimplesimon Sep 2014 #54

First thought was because ISIS/ISIL scares Israelis more... Moostache Sep 2014 #55

Several reasons: 1. Beheadings. 2. Pressure on POTUS; 3. Rush has "demoted" BH by calling it WinkyDink Sep 2014 #56

America feels responsible for the mess in Iraq, but not for Nigeria. tclambert Sep 2014 #57

+1 And Iraq and the Kurds want us there... But not as occupiers. Nigeria doesn't want us to help. freshwest Sep 2014 #61

Getting some Thom Hartmann love right now NightWatcher Sep 2014 #58

Thom Hartmann Puglover Sep 2014 #59

reminds me of the time he read a satirical post of mine on air cali Sep 2014 #60

Iraq. We are deeply invested in that country--American blood, money, oil, governing. TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #62

so that entitles us? ISIS was born of U.S. interventions. ISIS was born because the U.S. turned cali Sep 2014 #63

I'm not enthusiastic about any of it. But I also don't see the US watching TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #66

Because ISIS is like a Hollywood production. GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #67

I am not trying to be flip or dismissive, honest--but I can't be the only one tblue37 Sep 2014 #69

No, you aren't. That's what I think of, too. TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #70

Same here. nt. tblue37 Sep 2014 #71

The genocide and mass killings, and the taking of a major city muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #72

actually not entirely. yes, re Mosul but the number of murdered by BH and cali Sep 2014 #73

Why any of them? n/t raven mad Sep 2014 #74

You are right. Boko Haram is as serious as ISIS pissedoffhippie Dec 2014 #75

Why Hussein and not Suharto? Maedhros Dec 2014 #76