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In reply to the discussion: How would DU react to the 1930s and Hitler? [View all]RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)There was quite a large contingent of anti-war folks here in the US.
It was not until Pearl Harbor was bombed that many came to the war camp.
Nobody said that Hitler was not a problem. We were sending supplies to Europe for years before we entered the war.
Hitler spread himself too thin, suffered a harsh Russian winter, and could not maintain long supply lines. So maybe with the help of the Americans he was defeated. Without us, it might have taken a bit longer.
As far as other presidents, they are ALL swayed by the war mongering generals. Many who don't see an iota of combat. They all succumb to their propaganda, and not that the industrialists have a good interest in war, our leaders are swayed by them as well.
Tired of beheading, than you should be tired and want to attack Saudi Arabia. They beheaded 22 people in August.
So don't think that you can bomb ISIS or any other terrorist organization out of existence, because violence only begets violence. You bomb them but if you don't kill EVERYONE, the kids grow up to become more virulent terrorists, and have more kids who also become terrorists. And what of the innocent people that get killed and maimed.
No, each and every president who oversaw any military action where people were killed, especially innocent people, has a debt of karma to pay. Each and every one.
How we get this terrorist, and other terrorist groups to go away is to MAKE them irrelevant. We should start a Manhattan Project style program to get the entire country off of fossil fuels. And when we are done with the US, send it to any country that wants it, free of charge.
We can also stay out of others' civil wars. Who are we to decide who is right and who is wrong? The US is NOT the world's police force, nor are we superior beings to make these decisions. Oh, and did I mention that time and again, when we interfere, and arm one side of these civil wars, the folks who were on our side, become our enemies, shortly after they have done what we ask them.
Find out what kind of military armaments that these folks are using, and where they originated from. I would bet the mortgage that they originated in the US. So we must stop producing these weapons, and buy back any that we have sold or given to other countries. We are not the world's arms salesmen. We must also stop producing the propaganda that glorifies war, violence, and the like, and go to a culture of peace, understanding, nurturing, and community.
Isn't one of the definitions of insanity doing the same stupid thing over and over, and expecting different results. I find it insane that people think that we can bomb our way out of these things. Haven't we learned, after doing this over, and over, and over again that it just does not work?
Perhaps some of us just have to open our eyes a little wider, and look outside the box for REAL solutions. Long lasting solutions that will promote peace, prosperity, and community. After all, Earth is still our only home. There is no plan(et) B.