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jwirr

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40. Agreed. IMO leadership in many of the ME countries is more a symbol of power than of popularity.

Thu Sep 11, 2014, 11:06 PM

Sep 2014

The thing that I think makes this necessary is that I grew up learning first hand from people who fought in WWII and Germany ignoring the danger of Hitler's rise to power and did nothing. By the time it was too late he had the power he needed to hold onto the country even if they would have tried to depose him. That is what I am afraid of with ISIS. And I am not comparing ISIS to Hitler, merely saying that if left to their own ends they will become steadily more powerful and the ME will suffer for it. That is why the various countries in the ME need to step up and join together to stop this rise to power. It cannot be us. The USA and Europe have interfered enough - we can help in ways that they want but this has to be done their way. That is the only way there is ever going to be peace in the ME.

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What would happen if US did nothing with ISIS ?? [View all] kentuck Sep 2014 OP

We'd be looking at least at another Taliban, pre-9/11, but even more brutal and TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #1

Nah RobertEarl Sep 2014 #3

Then it shouldn't take long to take them out. randome Sep 2014 #28

And if we defeat them, what happens? kentuck Sep 2014 #4

The goal is a stable, unified Iraq that can repel Sunni and Shia extremists and TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #7

But that didn't work in Iraq last time, or Libya this time. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #11

Why? tazkcmo Sep 2014 #36

A puppet regime in Iraq that does what DC tells them to do? arcane1 Sep 2014 #19

Bwahahahaha, no it's not Scootaloo Sep 2014 #26

that the US views Iran becoming a stronger regional player geek tragedy Sep 2014 #12

I think we should keep doing the same thing over and over SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #2

It's like how I know one day I will reach for the remote Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #6

Mmmmm.. concentrate you must... SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #10

Nice! tazkcmo Sep 2014 #37

Yeah but we got us a Democrat in charge this time Autumn Sep 2014 #13

LOL.. I know, it's to the point that reality is SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #20

We would greatly disappoint the leadership of ISIS. Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #5

You got that right. Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #8

Our response to terrorism is the greatest recruiting tool they could have asked for. SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #18

IMO they gain three things when we attack them. Publicity - what else is the world talking about? jwirr Sep 2014 #32

Continuing the metaphor ISIS' "parents" should be taking care of them! riderinthestorm Sep 2014 #34

the question I would pose is: if we let Iraq burn, how likely is it that we'd be back geek tragedy Sep 2014 #9

Fewer people whining about Obama on DU? LordGlenconner Sep 2014 #14

The war industry would be pissed. polichick Sep 2014 #15

Perhaps other countries would get off their asses and protect themselves? arcane1 Sep 2014 #16

The portfolios of Billionaires would go down a couple %. dilby Sep 2014 #17

They'd try to solidify current holdings while expanding where ever possible. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #21

I suspect the other countries in the region would have to step up and take action. Tatiana Sep 2014 #22

I'm still awaiting the Cuban Invasion when the Cubans were the scary Bogeymen. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #23

In the Middle East the one player with the most Wellstone ruled Sep 2014 #24

No, we should excuse ourselves from the Middle East, including the Israel-Palestine dispute ecstatic Sep 2014 #25

We didn't "create" the mess; we just left a significant donation to the shit-pile Scootaloo Sep 2014 #27

fair enough. nt ecstatic Sep 2014 #30

Contributing more Aerows Sep 2014 #43

Why do you think that a democracy will form in the affected countries? jwirr Sep 2014 #33

It probably won't, but reparations/amends can't be made ecstatic Sep 2014 #39

Agreed. IMO leadership in many of the ME countries is more a symbol of power than of popularity. jwirr Sep 2014 #40

Anything in the ME, at this point, is a fool's errand. TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #29

Your last paragraph marions ghost Sep 2014 #35

Neighbouring countries would have to get off their butts? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #31

Why aren't they taking action? Aerows Sep 2014 #42

Heaven forbid. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #47

a superfools errand ... GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #38

Nothing that legitimately affects the US. Aerows Sep 2014 #41

Quagmire. JEB Sep 2014 #44

i don't really care, cuz i'm gonna get raptured soon anyway. Zorra Sep 2014 #45

Fools errand. Our last escapade created 31,000 new terrorists..... Them! grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #46