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Warren DeMontague

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21. These are all really good questions.
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 06:02 AM
Sep 2014

1) Higher, absolutely. NASA currently gets a sliver of the discretionary budget and yet, science and exploration always pay off not just in material benefits but also in knowledge (and the two are linked). Prime areas for redirecting funding towards NASA could come from the Military/Industrial Complex and the Drug War, for starts.

2) See above: I think it's ludicrous that we spend a Trillion on the Military, we spend 60 Billion a year to try to keep people from smoking pot... NASA gets, what, 12? 16? I think that the entire DEA budget could be subsumed and given to NASA, that's a start. How much, dollar figure? Increase it by an order of 10 from where it is, just for starters.

3) Both are important. Obviously given the current status of technology, deep exploration will need to be robotic for the time being. I'd like to see a situation where one does not always need to come at the expense of the other.

4) Is pretty tied up with 3), also 2) and 1). If we're talking percentages, split it down the middle.

5) I actually think the idea of a specialty-focused science and environmental gov. org separate from NASA is not a bad idea; nevertheless, NASA is leading the way in understanding planets as whole systems, which is what the Earth is. But NASA's core mission should be exploration and knowledge of the universe off-Earth. If budget allowed, Earth sciences going to a new department is a reasonable idea.

6) Solar observation? Sure. Solar science could remain a NASA job. Perhaps a partnership.

7) If by "worlds" you mean Planets, moons, and dwarf planets, that's another good question. Mars first. Then Europa. Ceres if it looks interesting enough (we should have an idea next year) Enceladeus, Titan.. Venus has gotten short shrift but I think it could be an interesting case study. Jupiter. I'd also like to know what is out in the Kuiper belt. We're going to get a close up look at Pluto-- so how about Eris next?

8) Mars is the obvious next destination for landing humans, to my mind.

9) Ceres, again. A Venus flyby is technologically feasable near-term and could provide crucial mission experience for long-duration spaceflight outside the near-Earth environment. Science might be low but the historic factor would be high. Plus, again, everyone likes to blow off Venus because, obviously, it's so frikken hellish there, but it is close and might have some interesting data points. Beyond that the moons of the 2 big gas giants are an obvious additional destination for human spaceflight, depending on how well issues like radiation can be dealt with.

10) I think the shuttle, with its inherent design flaws, brought the risk rate too high. There will always be risks. That said, I don't know what the acceptable rate is.

11) Depends on my personal life situation. I have others who depend on me so that factors pretty highly into any decision I would make that would put me in danger at this point in my life. Plus, I'm probably getting too old.

12) Yes, although like I said, I'd like to see the military cut and the drug war ended first. Yes. Unknown, since again these things don't take place in a vacuum. The fantasy political will to raise NASA's budget significantly (namely, in a universe where I ran everything) would also include the will to re-prioritize the areas I've mentioned, as well as others.

13) Unknown, although I personally believe that humans will be living, for instance, on Mars permanently by the end of this century. Colonization implies familes and children. I think when humans decide to go to live there, they will take their kids. That's how it works.

14) If I could go anywhere? I'd like to see other solar systems. That's not likely to happen. If I could go anywhere in this solar system? I think looking at Saturn from one of its moons would be the best view imaginable. But I'm old school, I'd have to go to Mars to appease my inner 8 year old, who would never forgive me if I didn't make that my first choice.

15) Another good question. I think humans will live on the moon and Mars- I think eventually (1000 year timeframe) humans will begin to Terraform Mars and, perhaps, other worlds of the solar system, depending on our abilities. Mars seems most doable. I suspect humans will establish outposts on Ceres and also Jovian and Saturnian moons. If we're still technologically backwards enough to need to burn hydrocarbons, humans may utilize the methane lakes on Titan, etc.

16) Another excellent question. I think social predictions for the future are hardest of all (look how ludicrous past ones all turn out, like how in the 1950s by 2000 we were all going to be wearing shiny unitards and plastic skullcaps) but I do think, if history and human nature are any guide, social and governmental experimentation will continue to take place in their most innovative, or at least different, forms at the frontiers of human exploration.

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Space Opinions Survey [View all] True Blue Door Sep 2014 OP
Maybe you should pst these as polls? 1) all the money for war to go to NASA. Higher. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #1
What does "Pst" mean? True Blue Door Sep 2014 #3
I'm going with "post" Agschmid Sep 2014 #7
Like Wales, maybe grahamgreen can't afford too many vowels. randome Sep 2014 #28
Pahahahaha NuclearDem Sep 2014 #32
I knew someone would get that. randome Sep 2014 #36
Gotta agree with your funding priority. True Blue Door Sep 2014 #14
My answers MohRokTah Sep 2014 #2
WRT #15, that's what we hope, but... True Blue Door Sep 2014 #4
I have to agree, but there's been social evolution since then. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #5
Absolutely, at least in some places. True Blue Door Sep 2014 #16
I disagree. Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #23
Interesting points about Europa and Titan. True Blue Door Sep 2014 #24
These answers: Tikki Sep 2014 #6
Secondary questions. True Blue Door Sep 2014 #25
1. NASA's budget should be higher. Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #8
Good galls, in general. True Blue Door Sep 2014 #26
Have you read Red Mars, Green Mars, and Blue Mars? SoLeftIAmRight Sep 2014 #9
The Mars trilogy is one of the most inspiring works ever. True Blue Door Sep 2014 #17
Right now, I believe we should drop every program but those that totally foster the well being of Zorra Sep 2014 #10
Do you consider space exploration and the mastering of spaceflight critical Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #11
My friend, I don't see human survival as anything important in the current or future state of the Zorra Sep 2014 #12
I agree with everything in your posts, Zorra Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #13
I hope so, but don't want to risk destroying the universe before we Zorra Sep 2014 #15
I suspect it will be an extremely long time before we Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #18
There is a slight discontinuity of analogy. True Blue Door Sep 2014 #29
This is a pretty vague standard. True Blue Door Sep 2014 #27
Five years after Augustine: How does the panel feel about NASA’s Space Launch System? bananas Sep 2014 #19
NASA budget should be unlimited. taken out of the militarys. KG Sep 2014 #20
Love with the idea of unlimited budgets for unmanned exploration. True Blue Door Sep 2014 #30
These are all really good questions. Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #21
I like space onions... Earth_First Sep 2014 #22
NASA steelsmith Sep 2014 #31
1. Higher, along with all scientific endeavours. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #33
A larger space station and a base on mars, but I would rather we green the deserts. Sunlei Sep 2014 #34
Here we go: NuclearDem Sep 2014 #35
Humankind is not that special, and we are not yet space-worthy. hunter Sep 2014 #37
Quick answers bananas Sep 2014 #38
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