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In reply to the discussion: Young Men Discouraged From Science [View all]JHB
(38,232 posts)19. “Mr. Spock Is Dreamy!” .:. by Isaac Asimov
Perhaps relevant to this discussion, a somewhat older perspective
Originally published in TV Guide, April 29, 1967.
Scientist and science-fiction writer Isaac Asimov is incredulous when his 12-year-old daughter tells him Star Trek's Mr. Spock is "dreamy":
http://www.fanpop.com/spots/zachary-quintos-spock/articles/120017/title/spock-dreamy-isaac-asimov
Do you know what this means to me? Can you imagine what a load of guilt it has taken off my back? Can you imagine what a much greater load of vain regret it has put on my back?
But, heaven help me, it wasnt my fault. I was misled. When I was young I read books about children; books for which Tom Sawyer was the prototype. Anyone else old enough to remember those books?
Remember the kid hero? Wasnt he a delightful little chap? Wasnt he manly? He played hooky all the time and went swimming at the old swimming hole. Remember? He never knew his lessons; he swiped apples; he used bad grammar and threw rocks at cats. You remember.
And do you remember that little sneaky kid we all hated so? He was an unbearable wretch who wore clean clothes, and did his lessons, and got high marks, and spoke like a dude. All the kids hated him, and so did all the readers. Rotten little smart kid!
But, heaven help me, it wasnt my fault. I was misled. When I was young I read books about children; books for which Tom Sawyer was the prototype. Anyone else old enough to remember those books?
Remember the kid hero? Wasnt he a delightful little chap? Wasnt he manly? He played hooky all the time and went swimming at the old swimming hole. Remember? He never knew his lessons; he swiped apples; he used bad grammar and threw rocks at cats. You remember.
And do you remember that little sneaky kid we all hated so? He was an unbearable wretch who wore clean clothes, and did his lessons, and got high marks, and spoke like a dude. All the kids hated him, and so did all the readers. Rotten little smart kid!
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Yes, I've been disturbed by that media meme for years. It's intentional by media.
freshwest
Apr 2012
#1
I was a science geek, good at math, and in the Chess club, in HS, tell me about it
quaker bill
Apr 2012
#8
Go into science, become unpopular with the girls, get laughed at by the boys for being a nerd,
Zalatix
Apr 2012
#10
Do you have any data to support this anecdote? That young men are discouraged from science?
riderinthestorm
Apr 2012
#11
Is this true? I'm in my 50's, so it's been a while since I've been in school.
Honeycombe8
Apr 2012
#14