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Savannahmann

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50. Seriously, you're going with the it's better to do something argument?

Fri Sep 12, 2014, 10:13 AM

Sep 2014

How many malpractice lawsuits has that approach garnered? When a line of Doctors tell the jury that the wrong thing was done, does the "we at least tried to do something" argument work?

The problem is that once you resort to violence, there is no where else to go except more violence. Let's say you and I are having an argument. I strike you in the eye with my fist. There is no going back and sitting down and attempting to continue the conversation. Violence is considered the last resort for a reason, because once you resort to it, there's no going back. Look at the history of this nation shall we? We bombed Gaddafi in Tripoli in the 1980's. Did we ever restart conversations with him? No, we always left him on a watch list, and never really got friendly with the Libyans again. Viet-Nam, we're still barely speaking to them after fifty years. Cuba? It's been seventy years since the failed bay of pigs invasion, and we're still maintaining an embargo on trade and travel.

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I can't help but wonder would there really be this much of a divide on DU about military action [View all] liberal_at_heart Sep 2014 OP

I supported the Afghan War in 2001 bluestateguy Sep 2014 #1

I remember I was 13 when my brother went over to fight in the Gulf War. I had no idea of the liberal_at_heart Sep 2014 #2

As did the vast majority of Americans - at or around 87%, depending on the pollster. BlueCaliDem Sep 2014 #33

Same here. Some on DU live in a fantasy world in which ... JoePhilly Sep 2014 #42

I did as well Man from Pickens Sep 2014 #60

Certainly you shouldn't even have to ask. If a repuke were facilitating such action Purveyor Sep 2014 #3

Yes, there would be near universal opposition and condemnation here but cali Sep 2014 #13

+ Eighty Gazillion Scuba Sep 2014 #22

For me... sendero Sep 2014 #32

Faith in EVERYTHING he does Doctor_J Sep 2014 #59

Dem or repug president, we were going to do something about ISIS brush Sep 2014 #56

Prior to Bush, we were maintaining no-fly zones in Iraq jberryhill Sep 2014 #4

Yea, but bombing never works!!!!!! JoePhilly Sep 2014 #48

I suspect not, but that doesn't mean that the people who'd be acting differently are wrong now Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2014 #5

Nor does it mean the reverse. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #28

I'm sure Putin supporters would still be for his wars of aggression. joshcryer Sep 2014 #6

huh? I'm far from a Putin supporter, I don't support this new war cali Sep 2014 #15

I think it's OK to try something and fail, than to do nothing. joshcryer Sep 2014 #16

It's certainly OK to try some things that may well result in failure. It's NOT OK to start a war cali Sep 2014 #19

Logic fail of epic proportions. joshcryer Sep 2014 #21

Not a fail at all. Fact is, bombs are often our first and only option, and they always backfire. Scuba Sep 2014 #23

Yawn. joshcryer Sep 2014 #27

let's see: you call me heartless- and yes, that's precisely what you did- cali Sep 2014 #25

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"The road to hell is paved with good intentions." Demit Sep 2014 #49

So I guess this means you and Cali aren't going to be running mates in 2016? davidpdx Sep 2014 #57

Good job in your last graf! You knocked that strawman out cold. Demit Sep 2014 #38

Seriously, you're going with the it's better to do something argument? Savannahmann Sep 2014 #50

There are two types of hawks. Union Scribe Sep 2014 #7

I think the latter is worse Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #41

Nope FlatStanley Sep 2014 #8

NO n/t ReRe Sep 2014 #9

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My opinion hasn't changed. Live and Learn Sep 2014 #12

but we'll get it right this time, because obama! KG Sep 2014 #14

I suspect there would. LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #17

You are not alone malaise Sep 2014 #18

Well said. nt woo me with science Sep 2014 #44

You have cultural PTSD and you need to get over it. randome Sep 2014 #20

+ 1000. Thank you! BlueCaliDem Sep 2014 #31

We've heard them cry 'Wolf!' too often. randome Sep 2014 #43

Obama isn't Bush. This isn't 2003. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #24

just like with the heritage foundation healthcare scam Doctor_J Sep 2014 #26

Objective lies. joshcryer Sep 2014 #30

you are correct Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #40

Being always every time in every situation... sendero Sep 2014 #34

+1 treestar Sep 2014 #37

Of course there wouldn't. LWolf Sep 2014 #35

A Republican would be doing different things treestar Sep 2014 #36

Nope, easy as that. Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #39

Obama said he'd increase troops in Afganistan as a candidate ... JoePhilly Sep 2014 #45

Hey maybe that's cuz democrats trust democratic leaders. mathematic Sep 2014 #46

Do you think if a repuke prez had announced on the 9/11 anniv that we were launching more attacks NightWatcher Sep 2014 #47

the fact you think many of us find ANYTHING 'acceptable simply because we have a Dem in the WH" KittyWampus Sep 2014 #53

so you swallow the false equivalency bullshit? Pathetic. KittyWampus Sep 2014 #51

You mean like yesterday's "Not attacking IS would be just like letting Hitler loose in the 30's" Doctor_J Sep 2014 #58

Not all Democrats here are hypocrites as some seem to think. NYC Liberal Sep 2014 #52

Just when I thought we were out... tularetom Sep 2014 #54

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