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olegramps

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26. Is ISIS self sustainable?
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 09:34 AM
Sep 2014

The weapons that they possess are weapons captured from the worthless Iraqi military that were provided by the U.S. It would seem to me that their avenues for rearming and maintaining these weapons could be controlled. The conditions that they face take a major toll on the equipment as we found out. The maintenance of these weapons is huge financial burden and when coupled with the expertise to required may prove to be a serious challenge. The ISIS forces which are made up of volunteers were not met with any effective resistance and mostly walked in unopposed. When the bombs start falling and reality sets in their enthusiasm and dedication may quickly evaporate.

They have been able to take control of the area by brutal intimidation and slaughter of hundreds if not thousands of "enemies". Those who were murdered have relatives and can only wait for their revenge. Family and tribe are powerful elements in these areas and not something that can be dismissed. These lesson was not lost on our forces. An example is what transpired in Afghanistan when the fundamentalists were challenged and the people were able to rebel. It appears evident that the vast majority of people don't want to live under these stark conditions. I am not dismissing the challenge, but I do question just how much of a permanent treat ISIS presents.

I would welcome any thoughts about the situation.

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Great questions, but Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #1
That’s a lot of it, which is why we have the bizarre dissonance between “ISIS must be stopped” and Chathamization Sep 2014 #21
We were going in no matter who was president brush Sep 2014 #36
Good points Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #39
Why do you hate America and/or freedom? vi5 Sep 2014 #2
I don't know. Not really interested. I am interested in how anyone supporting cali Sep 2014 #3
That's my point. They won't. vi5 Sep 2014 #4
I know, but I'm still hoping that someone will address the specifics and go beyond cali Sep 2014 #5
Valid questions BKH70041 Sep 2014 #6
Not to decide is to decide. littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #7
You have piqued my curiosity. Laelth Sep 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Laelth Sep 2014 #22
How, specifically, is he buying time? cali Sep 2014 #13
What do you believe his plan does accomplish? BKH70041 Sep 2014 #15
clearly this isn't what he intends, but I see cali Sep 2014 #17
I don't see this being a solution either. BKH70041 Sep 2014 #37
I imagine it’s the typical shoot missiles and declare success strategy that presidents fall back on Chathamization Sep 2014 #29
IS must have weapons to continue a jihad. Blowing up the weapons as they come across the border DhhD Sep 2014 #38
If someone can reconcile the ideas that: bullwinkle428 Sep 2014 #8
All great questions and thanks for your post. littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #9
Kicking. nt littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #10
To ignore the problem would be to allow ISIS to consolidate their position muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #12
the default response to serious questions regarding the president's plan cali Sep 2014 #14
The answers were: muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #16
the is NO indication of that. To the contrary- and if you read the articles linked in the OP cali Sep 2014 #18
The articles you linked to do not claim that the US is going it alone muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #30
+1. It certainly isn't very "pragmatic". Marr Sep 2014 #47
Colonial thinking. GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #20
Is ISIS self sustainable? olegramps Sep 2014 #26
Very good assessment. louis-t Sep 2014 #40
Sure we can DavidG_WI Sep 2014 #43
The UN has been made helpess in many cases by the actions of Russia and China. olegramps Sep 2014 #49
Syria is totally fucked, Iraq less so for the moment Tom Rinaldo Sep 2014 #19
Joe Sestak on msnbc said we gave the FSA radios flamingdem Sep 2014 #25
I'll bite. Laelth Sep 2014 #23
thanks for the response Laelth. cali Sep 2014 #28
The Kurdish forces with US air support Progressive dog Sep 2014 #24
Fantastic thread, cali. WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #27
Excellent thread. I will honor your ballyhoo Sep 2014 #31
Just to take a few little pieces of this -- starting with Sunni grievences karynnj Sep 2014 #32
How? By calling Michael Moore a racist to shut down criticism, that's how. nt DRoseDARs Sep 2014 #33
Depends on how it plays out. We don't yet know who will do what, to/with whom, where, when or how. riqster Sep 2014 #34
I don't think he's bush-like either. I do think he's up against odds that cali Sep 2014 #48
Good questions. Here are a few more: Chathamization Sep 2014 #35
"How can the U.S. possibly succeed going it alone? And that's what's happening." Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #41
Is that sarcasm? Scootaloo Sep 2014 #51
All they need to do is agree to cut off their money. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #53
Every American President in the past quarter century has now gone on television during prime time to J_J_ Sep 2014 #42
Great questions but they don't address why we are really there Corruption Inc Sep 2014 #44
Another serious question to add to the list: Maedhros Sep 2014 #45
I've done a lot of research on this. At this point they are largely self-funding cali Sep 2014 #46
Thank you! That was an informative article. Maedhros Sep 2014 #50
You're quite welcome, and I agree. cali Sep 2014 #52
Alas, many people get a vicarious thrill from military intervention. Maedhros Sep 2014 #54
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