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52. You're quite welcome, and I agree.

Fri Sep 12, 2014, 12:52 PM

Sep 2014

Destroy their oil trade. Here's where someone will jump in and tell us that oil is fungible blah blah blah- as if trade routes can't be disrupted and traders shut down.

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Some serious questions for those of you supporting the President's plan [View all] cali Sep 2014 OP

Great questions, but Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #1

That’s a lot of it, which is why we have the bizarre dissonance between “ISIS must be stopped” and Chathamization Sep 2014 #21

We were going in no matter who was president brush Sep 2014 #36

Good points Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #39

Why do you hate America and/or freedom? vi5 Sep 2014 #2

I don't know. Not really interested. I am interested in how anyone supporting cali Sep 2014 #3

That's my point. They won't. vi5 Sep 2014 #4

I know, but I'm still hoping that someone will address the specifics and go beyond cali Sep 2014 #5

Valid questions BKH70041 Sep 2014 #6

Not to decide is to decide. littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #7

You have piqued my curiosity. Laelth Sep 2014 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author Laelth Sep 2014 #22

How, specifically, is he buying time? cali Sep 2014 #13

What do you believe his plan does accomplish? BKH70041 Sep 2014 #15

clearly this isn't what he intends, but I see cali Sep 2014 #17

I don't see this being a solution either. BKH70041 Sep 2014 #37

I imagine it’s the typical shoot missiles and declare success strategy that presidents fall back on Chathamization Sep 2014 #29

IS must have weapons to continue a jihad. Blowing up the weapons as they come across the border DhhD Sep 2014 #38

If someone can reconcile the ideas that: bullwinkle428 Sep 2014 #8

All great questions and thanks for your post. littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #9

Kicking. nt littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #10

To ignore the problem would be to allow ISIS to consolidate their position muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #12

the default response to serious questions regarding the president's plan cali Sep 2014 #14

The answers were: muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #16

the is NO indication of that. To the contrary- and if you read the articles linked in the OP cali Sep 2014 #18

The articles you linked to do not claim that the US is going it alone muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #30

+1. It certainly isn't very "pragmatic". Marr Sep 2014 #47

Colonial thinking. GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #20

Is ISIS self sustainable? olegramps Sep 2014 #26

Very good assessment. louis-t Sep 2014 #40

Sure we can DavidG_WI Sep 2014 #43

The UN has been made helpess in many cases by the actions of Russia and China. olegramps Sep 2014 #49

Syria is totally fucked, Iraq less so for the moment Tom Rinaldo Sep 2014 #19

Joe Sestak on msnbc said we gave the FSA radios flamingdem Sep 2014 #25

I'll bite. Laelth Sep 2014 #23

thanks for the response Laelth. cali Sep 2014 #28

The Kurdish forces with US air support Progressive dog Sep 2014 #24

Fantastic thread, cali. WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #27

Excellent thread. I will honor your ballyhoo Sep 2014 #31

Just to take a few little pieces of this -- starting with Sunni grievences karynnj Sep 2014 #32

How? By calling Michael Moore a racist to shut down criticism, that's how. nt DRoseDARs Sep 2014 #33

Depends on how it plays out. We don't yet know who will do what, to/with whom, where, when or how. riqster Sep 2014 #34

I don't think he's bush-like either. I do think he's up against odds that cali Sep 2014 #48

Good questions. Here are a few more: Chathamization Sep 2014 #35

"How can the U.S. possibly succeed going it alone? And that's what's happening." Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #41

Is that sarcasm? Scootaloo Sep 2014 #51

All they need to do is agree to cut off their money. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #53

Every American President in the past quarter century has now gone on television during prime time to J_J_ Sep 2014 #42

Great questions but they don't address why we are really there Corruption Inc Sep 2014 #44

Another serious question to add to the list: Maedhros Sep 2014 #45

I've done a lot of research on this. At this point they are largely self-funding cali Sep 2014 #46

Thank you! That was an informative article. Maedhros Sep 2014 #50

You're quite welcome, and I agree. cali Sep 2014 #52

Alas, many people get a vicarious thrill from military intervention. Maedhros Sep 2014 #54