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Tierra_y_Libertad

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75. How many terrorist organizations has our CIA given money to? "Legally", of course.

Fri Sep 12, 2014, 09:30 PM

Sep 2014

Anybody remember the "Freedom Fighter" in Afghanistan? The Contras? Anti-Iranian government forces? Unita? And, a long list of other killers who did their fair share of slitting throats.

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OMG !!! - 'Government Threatened Foley Family Over Ransom Payments, Mother of Slain Journalist Says' [View all] WillyT Sep 2014 OP

Did they ask for a ransom? JaneyVee Sep 2014 #1

Here: WillyT Sep 2014 #8

Are you aware that ransoms are a major source of funding for ISIS? pnwmom Sep 2014 #23

I think you would change your tune . . . Brigid Sep 2014 #36

Where did I criticize the family? Their reaction is perfectly understandable. pnwmom Sep 2014 #37

And what do you have to say to the families? Brigid Sep 2014 #40

I would say I'm very sorry for your loss. pnwmom Sep 2014 #47

You're right about one thing . . . Brigid Sep 2014 #51

This ^ AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #52

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Sep 2014 #54

Amen. 840high Sep 2014 #84

So do we say to the family of the next one who is kidnapped, pnwmom Sep 2014 #94

LMFAO AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #116

That has been the practice with al Queda, who also kidnap for profit. pnwmom Sep 2014 #142

And your point is still AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #143

Agree. Agschmid Sep 2014 #93

Just finished reading book about a girl who got kidnapped in Somalia marlakay Sep 2014 #46

Yes... And Do YOU Realize You Wouldn't Have A Clue About The Situation On The Ground... WillyT Sep 2014 #53

Where have I criticized the journalists? n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #56

Well... Apparently You Are OK With The WH Sending An Officer In Full Regalia To Threaten The Family WillyT Sep 2014 #59

Where did you read the "full regalia" part of this? pnwmom Sep 2014 #62

How Would They Know That He Was "Highly Decorated" Without Him Wearing Them ??? WillyT Sep 2014 #63

No you are not the only one outraged. zappaman Sep 2014 #64

I Don't Give One Fuck About The Tea-Baggers... WillyT Sep 2014 #66

So your position is that financing terrorism is ok, so long as they take your family member hostage? mattclearing Sep 2014 #108

Exactly. Brigid Sep 2014 #65

That was the reporter's paraphrase, and we interpreted it differently. pnwmom Sep 2014 #69

ummmmmmm DustyJoe Sep 2014 #86

Al Queda and ISIS are separate entities. And no money exchanged hands pnwmom Sep 2014 #87

They weren't members of al queda, they were Taliban and deemed relatively harmless.. glowing Sep 2014 #131

Except the major war criminal, you mean? DirkGently Sep 2014 #133

I would wait until it was my son, brother, sister, mother they were threatening to kill unless they sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #103

Ransom money IS a major source of funding for ISIS. pnwmom Sep 2014 #105

What encourages terrorism and kidnapping is our foreign policies, our very presence in these places, sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #132

Right wing is screaming about this too. JoePhilly Sep 2014 #2

We allow shipping companies to give the Somali pirates money. Savannahmann Sep 2014 #3

Hell... We Allow Certain Banks To Launder Money For The Murderous Drug Cartels... WillyT Sep 2014 #4

And no one ever goes to jail. Octafish Sep 2014 #29

Musn't interrupt the flow of Teh Marketz! n/t leftstreet Sep 2014 #5

But but but but... Rex Sep 2014 #9

Did you read your own links? JoePhilly Sep 2014 #10

I can totally understand the family being upset. tanyev Sep 2014 #44

If ransom had been paid by government, the RW would scream the loudest in view of Reagan trading kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #68

Eric Holder represented Chiquita Banana Co when they were found guilty of paying terrorists Bluenorthwest Sep 2014 #74

I need to hear more information on this before I know what to think. There HAS to be more to this. jillan Sep 2014 #6

The other side to this is that ISIS's major funding source is ransoms. pnwmom Sep 2014 #25

It's the public's perception of this that is going to matter. Lurks Often Sep 2014 #7

I would not be so sure. JoePhilly Sep 2014 #12

If we start paying ransom there will not be one ISIS but dozens of small terrorist groups that are jwirr Sep 2014 #11

This has been the US position for a long time. JoePhilly Sep 2014 #13

As a parent, I would ignore your fear. GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #109

I hope you safely direct the lives of your adult children jberryhill Sep 2014 #112

And I would not blame you BUT how are you going to feel when the blowback comes and there are jwirr Sep 2014 #114

OMG! It's against Federal law to give money to terrorists! zappaman Sep 2014 #14

Your Compassion... Is Underwhelming... Again... WillyT Sep 2014 #60

WTF? zappaman Sep 2014 #61

I'd like to see a US Attorney with the chutzpah to actually charge someone for this. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #70

That would go over like a lead balloon wouldn't it. Autumn Sep 2014 #76

rec SammyWinstonJack Sep 2014 #15

For the record, I'd like to know the exact comments Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #16

There's ALWAYS a backstory. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #18

We'll see... Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #30

Giving them factual information is a threat? elehhhhna Sep 2014 #31

It wouldn't appear so, apart from the potential of a dickhead throwing his weight around. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #34

Foley's brother was on Fox, only blaming the State Dept. instead of the NSC and TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #35

Yeah, saw that. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #38

But, we're launching another lost war because they didn't pay the ransom. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #17

Do you honestly believe ann--- Sep 2014 #20

How bizarre is that to not realize this is not happening because of one journalist? Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #22

Help me, DU. How outraged am I supposed to be to be a good progressive??? NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #19

"supposed to be to be a good progressive" bobduca Sep 2014 #104

Too funny, Foxified version is that Americans should be allowed to give money to terrorists? Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #21

Bingo. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #24

And I thought we don't negotiate with terrorists treestar Sep 2014 #78

Has anyone heard of the kidnapping industry in S. America? justiceischeap Sep 2014 #26

iirc Italy had a huge problem with this as well. elehhhhna Sep 2014 #33

So you would sacrifice the life of your child so that it wouldn't happen to anyone else? liberal_at_heart Sep 2014 #100

agreed MFM008 Sep 2014 #107

this man was no child jberryhill Sep 2014 #113

They're upset and angry and can run to the media and say anything they wish. TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #27

BTW: ABC's Brian Ross has a bad reputation for not being credible: TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #32

This is a sad thing, but I do not want our Gov. to ever 'ok' ransom payments to terrorist 'groups'. Sunlei Sep 2014 #28

Grieving mom blames and insinuates flamingdem Sep 2014 #39

Not paying ransom is the right thing to do, Progressive dog Sep 2014 #41

Yah ok. Agschmid Sep 2014 #42

The way the Foleys have been treated is downright sickening. Brigid Sep 2014 #43

How have they been treated exactly? pnwmom Sep 2014 #48

They were treated as if they were in the way. Brigid Sep 2014 #49

So the law should be ignored treestar Sep 2014 #80

A little compassion and sensitivity go a long way. Brigid Sep 2014 #82

it is possible to recognize that there is a law that ransoms can't be paid treestar Sep 2014 #83

Tragic. But, giving money to terrorists is illegal geek tragedy Sep 2014 #45

I'm curious on this point daredtowork Sep 2014 #85

Giving money to terrorists is illegal. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #88

Where is the list of "terrorists" you can't give money to? daredtowork Sep 2014 #89

State dept designates them Nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #90

That seems to mean daredtowork Sep 2014 #91

Your overthinking this and failing miserably. Agschmid Sep 2014 #118

If it ends up hurting the victim more than the terrorist daredtowork Sep 2014 #122

In a just society, there is no benefit to someone who kills without empathy, thought, or remorse. Agschmid Sep 2014 #123

I can't imagine how someone who kills can ever sleep again daredtowork Sep 2014 #128

This list is published here jberryhill Sep 2014 #95

There is a concept in Jewish law called Pikuach Nefesh. Brigid Sep 2014 #92

But ISIS will use that money to kill other people's sons and daughters. CBHagman Sep 2014 #96

So let me ask you something.... jberryhill Sep 2014 #97

Another situation where there are no good options. Brigid Sep 2014 #99

you will kill other people's children to save yours jberryhill Sep 2014 #115

I also wonder if daredtowork Sep 2014 #102

preservation of one life while endangering hundreds more is not a wise decision nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #121

Things in this country are coming unglued Doctor_J Sep 2014 #50

Swapping a life for cash, bad. Swapping one person for several prisoners, good. The Straight Story Sep 2014 #55

+1 liberal_at_heart Sep 2014 #71

Those are other humans, not money treestar Sep 2014 #81

No difference at all, policy wise. DirkGently Sep 2014 #127

Yes, things are always so simple that a four-year-old could understand. randome Sep 2014 #57

TeaParty.org just sent me an email on this11!!!!111!!! BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #58

Good For You... Why Are You On Their List Exactly ??? WillyT Sep 2014 #67

Some of the responses in this thread are amazing. There literally is nothing the Obama liberal_at_heart Sep 2014 #72

Bingo !!! - It's About Supporting This Administration... NO... MATTER... WHAT !!! WillyT Sep 2014 #73

Absolutely incorrect. It's about a policy of not encouraging people to kidnap geek tragedy Sep 2014 #125

So letting this man die was good policy because the people who SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #144

Yes, that is the point. If they see it does not pay geek tragedy Sep 2014 #145

You know what? If we were dealing with sane people.. SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #146

50 Europeans kidnapped, two Americans. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #147

Nobody is blaming the family for being upset. I think we all understand TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #77

Yup. Agschmid Sep 2014 #120

What? treestar Sep 2014 #79

I would be thinking of the next hostage whose capture I would be funding jberryhill Sep 2014 #98

I saw that movie too! bobduca Sep 2014 #106

I take it you have no children. GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #110

You take it wrong jberryhill Sep 2014 #111

No, it's called being rational about policy that affects everyone. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #124

Trading prisoners is no different. DirkGently Sep 2014 #129

No. Prisoner swaps in an armed conflict that is winding down are geek tragedy Sep 2014 #134

You know that whole "winding down" thing is meaningless though, right? DirkGently Sep 2014 #135

It is not the same. It was a swap of prisoners of war. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #136

The rightwing talking points are all yours here. DirkGently Sep 2014 #138

The Taliban are an armed militia in the field of battle. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #139

The Taliban is on our list of designated terrorist organizations. DirkGently Sep 2014 #141

I thought sacrificing other people's kids was a conservative thing? DirkGently Sep 2014 #140

How many terrorist organizations has our CIA given money to? "Legally", of course. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #75

Exactly. liberal_at_heart Sep 2014 #101

OMG, we should have given them all our lunch money, then they wouldn't bully us! NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #117

We should have just paid them. It's a stupid policy. LittleBlue Sep 2014 #119

iirc we're the only country that doesn't pay ransoms nashville_brook Sep 2014 #126

Bingo. We won't pay, but we'll go to war? DirkGently Sep 2014 #130

So, corporations pay ransom so often that DirkGently Sep 2014 #137