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gollygee

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63. I have not heard the BOG expect 100% loyalty

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 01:49 PM

Sep 2014

I don't visit that group but that's not what I see at all. I see a group of people who feel like the president is sometimes unfairly criticized, and who feel the criticism is sometimes racial. That doesn't mean they expect 100% loyalty, just that they expect criticism to be fair and not racial.

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Re Michael Moore: "Liberals turn on one of their own" [View all] gollygee Sep 2014 OP

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Nothing to do with M. Moore, but Obama called himself a New Democrat. merrily Sep 2014 #2

President Obama : "I would be considered a moderate Republican" bullwinkle428 Sep 2014 #8

Yep, that too. That is totally consistent with being a New Democrat. merrily Sep 2014 #9

I've noticed that, too. Marr Sep 2014 #91

It's inaccurate and a barrier to communication. But, if you want to add ridiculous, who am I merrily Sep 2014 #95

I've said this a few times gollygee Sep 2014 #65

The country as a whole has been misdirected by those in both the Democratic merrily Sep 2014 #93

Obama isn't a liberal. woo me with science Sep 2014 #3

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Sep 2014 #33

^^^^This^^^ +1000 2banon Sep 2014 #46

He is not all that liberal gollygee Sep 2014 #64

What's your definition of "liberal" YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #72

Hint: NOT someone who, in the 1980s, would have been considered a moderate Republican. merrily Sep 2014 #94

Liberal is actually a very broad term YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #99

You're the one asked for a definition. merrily Sep 2014 #100

Obama, like Hillary is a corporatist tiredtoo Sep 2014 #4

+infinity. Nt newfie11 Sep 2014 #19

I think Moore did say some of the things you say "if he had said" about muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #5

I watched it, and it's deplorable. Also inaccurate. ucrdem Sep 2014 #6

Moore is saying that a president shouldn't leave the welfare of US cities to their mayors muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #7

We both know he didn't say anything close to that. ucrdem Sep 2014 #11

You brought up the mayor; don't blame me for your red herring muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #13

US presidents do not run US cities. Mayors or city managers do. You're welcome. nt ucrdem Sep 2014 #15

As I said, that's a very libertarian thing to say muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #16

Conyers is a US Rep. The city of Detroit is in his district. He is elected to represent it. ucrdem Sep 2014 #18

And I'm not even American. I'm not saying it's your *job* to stand up for Detroit muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #21

Well now you know a little more about US civics. nt ucrdem Sep 2014 #23

Obama has committed hundreds of millions to Detroit... OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #34

Then that's what Moore should be criticised about muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #38

Yes and no. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #40

Moore made it about race -- he made Obama's presidency ALL about race. ucrdem Sep 2014 #41

Yes he did. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #49

Moore never said Obama ran Detroit, though. Neither did Muriel V. merrily Sep 2014 #20

Neither did I. I said Moore blames Obama for the shut-off notices. ucrdem Sep 2014 #22

Your reply 6: merrily Sep 2014 #25

Which is factually correct. nt ucrdem Sep 2014 #26

Yes, but a straw man and the first mention on this thread of Obama being or not being the Mayor merrily Sep 2014 #27

The thread is about Moore's ill-informed remarks. nt ucrdem Sep 2014 #45

Yes. And your point is? merrily Sep 2014 #47

I've made and supported my points already. Sorry if you feel otherwise. nt ucrdem Sep 2014 #48

The point of your Reply 45 to me is neither evident nor made and that is the only one I asked about. merrily Sep 2014 #50

Um. Yes, he did. Savannahmann Sep 2014 #39

"We refused to let Detroit go bankrupt" is a reference to Romney's remark. ucrdem Sep 2014 #44

No, Moore is talking about the city of Detroit. Savannahmann Sep 2014 #51

Thank you. Obama is the first African American President (openly, anyway). merrily Sep 2014 #17

Because Moore's claim is that Obama's actions as president won't be memorable muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #28

Thanks to you, I read Moore's actual claims. merrily Sep 2014 #32

I specifically say gollygee Sep 2014 #62

My point is that "he was the first black president" is praise, not criticism muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #88

I don't understand how you see that as praise gollygee Sep 2014 #89

Probaby because it's not Number23 Sep 2014 #96

And what will be said of Michael Moore.... Historic NY Sep 2014 #10

Moore is worth about $50 million. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #24

Yep he is worth that ...while releasing his films for free to the public. L0oniX Sep 2014 #35

Thanks for the non sequitor. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #37

Faulting Moore for not pouring $50 million of his own money into Detroit is silly merrily Sep 2014 #98

His movies had impact. You don't have to trash him because he trashed Obama. merrily Sep 2014 #29

It really is very petulant, isn't it? QC Sep 2014 #55

I think there is some RW-type behavior. merrily Sep 2014 #61

assuming intentions gollygee Sep 2014 #66

Who assumed your intentions? I did not say that this thread was an example of right wing behavior. merrily Sep 2014 #68

Sorry for assuming intentions gollygee Sep 2014 #71

No worries. Easy to do. merrily Sep 2014 #76

You know what I think has happened? QC Sep 2014 #69

I was not really following politics closely until the Bush years. merrily Sep 2014 #70

I don't remember there being quite as much team spirit about Clinton. QC Sep 2014 #78

Two other factors that differed: a viable 3rd party candidate, and no widepread internet use. arcane1 Sep 2014 #86

"...Obama, who yes is a liberal..." 99Forever Sep 2014 #12

Trash away gollygee Sep 2014 #59

Liberals my granny malaise Sep 2014 #14

Partisan party patrons prefer proper protocol. ..nt TeeYiYi Sep 2014 #42

Hehehehehhee malaise Sep 2014 #43

They're not liberals, for the most part. QC Sep 2014 #30

You're mischaracterizing the people involved gollygee Sep 2014 #58

I lulz'd KG Sep 2014 #31

Moore's remark wasn't racist. You are twisting yourself into a pretzel trying to portray it as such Vattel Sep 2014 #36

It feeds into our society's racism gollygee Sep 2014 #57

okay Vattel Sep 2014 #87

Michael has always been an unabashed Liberal Joe Turner Sep 2014 #52

It isn't about partisanship gollygee Sep 2014 #56

and there's the glitch in your "theory of mind": Moore's attacked for not being behind Obama 100% MisterP Sep 2014 #53

No gollygee Sep 2014 #54

yes MisterP Sep 2014 #60

I have not heard the BOG expect 100% loyalty gollygee Sep 2014 #63

The ban list says otherwise. Rex Sep 2014 #85

Wow. Very perceptive post. nt Romulox Sep 2014 #79

Those that pounce on MM for any given thing are far from liberals. Rex Sep 2014 #67

You assume that anyone who is not happy with the racial nature of his criticism gollygee Sep 2014 #73

No I mean here on DU...and yeah I watch them make fat jokes non stop about him. Rex Sep 2014 #74

I don't like the fat jokes gollygee Sep 2014 #75

That was my point and not a bad one really. Rex Sep 2014 #77

I've seen a few. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #80

Yeah that was a dumb thing to say, if you cannot say anything nice... Rex Sep 2014 #81

Michael Moore supported Ralph Nader for President in 2000. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #82

Believe it or not, not everyone here is a Democrat. Rex Sep 2014 #83

Yes it is reasonable. Thanks. elleng Sep 2014 #84

yes that is frequent treestar Sep 2014 #90

He's a blowhard trying to hold on to some small bit of fame. NaturalHigh Sep 2014 #92

I don't call them liberals Skittles Sep 2014 #97

Cuz if they turned a critical eye on MM, they'd have to do some introspection, and that's scary. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #101