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joshcryer

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28. So you do draw the line.

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 07:21 AM

Sep 2014

I don't draw it anywhere. If the people defending themselves against ISIS want drone strikes, I support them. I support whatever level of action that the people, defending themselves from ISIS, want. Period. That's the difference.

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The difference between drone strikes and public beheadings is [View all] Pryderi Sep 2014 OP

Dead is dead. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #1

Dead is dead, but all manners of death are not equal. cali Sep 2014 #14

Go tell that to the families and friends of the dead malaise Sep 2014 #20

I just said it here. cali Sep 2014 #37

In school, I had a debate of the kind that school kids sometimes have. merrily Sep 2014 #2

I think it's rather pointless to discuss the relative 'evilness' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #7

As I said, it was the kind of debate school kids sometimes have. merrily Sep 2014 #10

A profound comment malaise Sep 2014 #34

The Nazi's mechanized mass murder hack89 Sep 2014 #40

Frankly, I think the fetishization of the A-bomb ignores.... Adrahil Sep 2014 #41

I agree as to your point, but merrily Sep 2014 #44

Journalists and aid workers don't count as collateral damage? Live and Learn Sep 2014 #3

Yes. No. Collateral damage usually means people you never targeted, but merrily Sep 2014 #13

But drones are targeted and we know the civilians Live and Learn Sep 2014 #16

In your view, then, the US is targeting presumably innocent bystanders? merrily Sep 2014 #18

Of course, they are. Live and Learn Sep 2014 #19

I am a pacifist and non-violent. merrily Sep 2014 #22

Ummm... I get your point, but I think you're wide of the mark. Adrahil Sep 2014 #42

I almost hate to resort to this, but it depends on how you define "deliberately target." merrily Sep 2014 #45

The people beheading kill 10x as many? joshcryer Sep 2014 #4

Than drones, yes. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #5

So you go from drones to MIC. joshcryer Sep 2014 #6

How many have drones killed? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #8

Which counts? Militants or civilians? joshcryer Sep 2014 #9

It's always fun to accuse other people of 'not caring' about deaths, isn't it? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #11

Reread post #6. joshcryer Sep 2014 #15

Where exactly did I outline 'my required level of depravity'? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #17

Post #5? Your concern is minimal, at best. joshcryer Sep 2014 #21

My 'concern level' in post 5 is the same as your 'concern level' in post 6. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #27

So you do draw the line. joshcryer Sep 2014 #28

I draw the line at actions I feel will create even more deaths down the road. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #31

I'm fine supporting what the defenders want. joshcryer Sep 2014 #36

Exactly. HERVEPA Sep 2014 #32

I think there are lots of differences. cali Sep 2014 #12

Beheading was once considered a rather humane death. Live and Learn Sep 2014 #23

beheading was considered humane because it was quick ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2014 #24

I haven't watched any of the videos but I haven't seen anything Live and Learn Sep 2014 #25

equating waterboarding and beheading with a small serrated blade ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2014 #26

How the hell can I be accused of equating when Live and Learn Sep 2014 #29

you said quite clearly ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2014 #30

An opening shot? That is your proof? Live and Learn Sep 2014 #33

glad YOU get to decide what's ridiculous on a discussion board ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2014 #35

beheading with a sharp sword, axe of guillotine, was indeed considered more humane than cali Sep 2014 #38

+100 on the method of beheading. ChazII Sep 2014 #46

If you get a piece of shrapnel tear open your gut and die from prolonged bleeding it’s not exactly Chathamization Sep 2014 #47

More people are wounded or maimed CJCRANE Sep 2014 #49

Drone victims have been known to suffer before they die. Missing limbs, eyes, face...etc. n/t Pryderi Sep 2014 #51

So they are better than we are? treestar Sep 2014 #39

They're all part of the same thing. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #43

Motivation ksoze Sep 2014 #48

Drones have little impact on us CJCRANE Sep 2014 #50

Labor costs and camera time. Orsino Sep 2014 #52