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olegramps

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191. I really don't view Senator Sanders as calculating politician.

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:19 PM

Sep 2014

I welcome your comments. This is what I admire about him. He has never, to my knowledge, wavered from his socialistic economic views and his dedication to the working class. There have been several times that I have seen in which he could have compromised to make his position more attractable to Republicans and right leaning Independents.

I have come to regard the vast majority Democrats to be little more than middle of the road opportunists who only show up at the labor unions to collect a check. Obama is one hell of a lot better than any to days Ayn Rand Republican. But he isn't FDR, that's for damn sure. I love the response that FDR had for the wealthy when he said they viewed him as a traitor to his privileged class and he welcomed their hatred. This is my major criticism in regard to Obama. I have wondered if his bi-racial heritage has a lot to do with his determination not to offend anyone. I hope no one interprets my "wondering" as in any way as being racist. I believe that we all go along to get along to a certain extent. Sanders seems to be a very special cat.

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Go Bernie! Sanders for President for sure! He nailed it. Ate Chuch Todd for brunch! [View all] TheNutcracker Sep 2014 OP

K&R for Bernie Sanders. The O N L Y one speaking for citizens who are not the 1%. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #1

He's not the only one. mimi85 Sep 2014 #95

well not many other out there PatrynXX Sep 2014 #129

I agree.... mimi85 Sep 2014 #158

I wouldn't give up if Hillary declares... elzenmahn Sep 2014 #169

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #156

alright, I'll bite - what's so funny? /nt demwing Sep 2014 #161

All the HRC supporters want all other potential candidates to clear the field. Ikonoklast Sep 2014 #181

Does any one want to give this any content? Jack Rabbit Sep 2014 #2

Here's a little context TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #32

I realize you like the things Sanders is saying. Just keep this in mind wyldwolf Sep 2014 #53

Well since we are going to keep the Senate and get back the House Rex Sep 2014 #58

you have no way to be sure of that wyldwolf Sep 2014 #77

Based on my FB feed, even church-going right-wingers like his messages. No lie. silvershadow Sep 2014 #109

He reminds fundies of a Methodist preacher. RoverSuswade Sep 2014 #119

Great post! mimi85 Sep 2014 #159

Thanks. I love Bernie. RoverSuswade Sep 2014 #178

Until they realized that he's Jewish. nt Stardust Sep 2014 #163

Not surprising. Same defense of the poor as Jesus. olegramps Sep 2014 #186

I'm not surprised. I think both he and Elizabeth Warren could get through to the masses Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #123

+1 woo me with science Sep 2014 #176

Repubs and Establishment Dems in the House and Senate prevented Carter tblue37 Sep 2014 #149

Tip O'Neill was a liberal Democrat and President Carter was very much a conservative wyldwolf Sep 2014 #151

We ARE? I certainly hope so but I'm not kidding myself. calimary Sep 2014 #116

Hear, hear!! nt mimi85 Sep 2014 #160

I drive people to the voting booths by the car load. What do you do? Rex Sep 2014 #196

One thing I do, every time I'm out somewhere, in situations where I transact with someone calimary Sep 2014 #198

Sanders would have real power modeforjoe Sep 2014 #72

Yep -he wouldn't waste his mandate the way some recent president has. elehhhhna Sep 2014 #86

Motivational speaker: El Shaman Sep 2014 #105

It's up to us to make him more than that. cui bono Sep 2014 #111

If by some chance Bernie got elected POTUS, it would be up to us to apply the pressure to the Dustlawyer Sep 2014 #137

Well we can do that right here...and contact everyone's office who's involved. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #144

I hope you are better at it than I am (wouldn't take much), I can't even get people here at DU Dustlawyer Sep 2014 #153

I've seen and applaud your posts dreamnightwind Sep 2014 #166

DU is a Partisan forum. In the RW however, things are very different in terms of what people talk sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #171

If you read former Treasury Secretary Geithner's book, Obama did get his program through, and jtuck004 Sep 2014 #113

Therefore, lets vote for Chris Krispy. He knows how to get things done with democrats. Hoppy Sep 2014 #120

OK, I'll play LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #125

She would get her agenda through Doctor_J Sep 2014 #155

Cool prophecy... LanternWaste Sep 2014 #207

Keep this in mind tazkcmo Sep 2014 #128

So what's your point? We should elect a Republican or Republican posing as a Dem? Scuba Sep 2014 #130

Good point. sulphurdunn Sep 2014 #150

Well, jeez. If liberals would just stop pushing left policies, then conservatives would-- eridani Sep 2014 #152

Another of our conservative dems had the same talking point LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #189

He'd clearly explain to the American public what is really going on. Zorra Sep 2014 #184

If Sanders primaries HRC... ReRe Sep 2014 #204

Thank you Jack Rabbit Sep 2014 #66

My take on ilt was a little different. olegramps Sep 2014 #188

Yes, that's another way of putting it Jack Rabbit Sep 2014 #190

I really don't view Senator Sanders as calculating politician. olegramps Sep 2014 #191

This was Bernie's first appearance on Meet the Press. House of Roberts Sep 2014 #3

I saw his name on the program info underpants Sep 2014 #36

Chuck Todd says it in the intro. House of Roberts Sep 2014 #42

NBC is not about democracy or helping out candidates like Bernie. merrily Sep 2014 #55

Just watched the clip on YouTube. Bernie did great! Old Crow Sep 2014 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Sep 2014 #41

Bernie clip valerief Sep 2014 #5

Speaking truth to power CanonRay Sep 2014 #10

Thank you, valerief Iwillnevergiveup Sep 2014 #11

Wow! Wow! Wow! JDPriestly Sep 2014 #12

Thanks for posting the video!! PearliePoo2 Sep 2014 #14

Todd didn't know what hit him Robbins Sep 2014 #16

Chucky: But what about Hillary/Democrats? ybbor Sep 2014 #18

Thank you for sharing that clip of Bernie. But, let me reiterate..... Enthusiast Sep 2014 #22

All together now! (Chorus:) Fuck Chuck lastlib Sep 2014 #51

Didn't quite know where to put this ... sunnystarr Sep 2014 #131

Where do we SIGN UP to Assist.... LovingA2andMI Sep 2014 #24

GREAT question. merrily Sep 2014 #31

Thank you! LovingA2andMI Sep 2014 #33

Most welcome. merrily Sep 2014 #37

And here.... TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #38

Thanks for posting cllp, was not available and too excited to wait! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #27

BWAHAAHAA! "Let Hillary speak for herself." Brilliant! nt antigop Sep 2014 #34

Comes close to "I take him at his word." merrily Sep 2014 #56

Finally hearing truth on MTP Duppers Sep 2014 #39

Thank you for posting this clip Faux pas Sep 2014 #59

Stay safe on the trail in Iowa. PADemD Sep 2014 #64

You caught that, too? I found it rather creepy. nt antigop Sep 2014 #73

Bernie needs to declare ASAP and get SS protection. PADemD Sep 2014 #80

A veiled threat coming from the PNACocracy's Sunday show? valerief Sep 2014 #78

That comment jumped out at me! southerncrone Sep 2014 #165

Thank You for posting. Good stuff! /nt think Sep 2014 #65

his first ever appearance on meet the press....says volumes spanone Sep 2014 #69

He is absolutely right when he says 'more and more people are becoming Independents'. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #71

Notice how he stays on point and addresses the issues no matter how much Todd baits him. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #107

yep grasswire Sep 2014 #115

Love this: CrispyQ Sep 2014 #110

Great clip! markpkessinger Sep 2014 #112

The most infuriating fact here was in fuck turd's introduction. calimary Sep 2014 #117

Yep. There's the problem right there. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #134

WOO!HOO! GO BERNIE!!!!! magical thyme Sep 2014 #126

Schmuck Toad gets the smackdown BumRushDaShow Sep 2014 #127

LOL...Upchuck Todd tried to make it about Obama and Hillary Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #133

+1000. I watched out of curiosity. First time I've heard the term Oligarchy on Tee Vee. adirondacker Sep 2014 #6

Todd tried his best to get Sanders to take a shot at Hillary and Democrats rurallib Sep 2014 #7

You bet and Todd will be gone before the cycle really gets underway. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #40

That should be a template for dealing with the ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #44

well stated! rurallib Sep 2014 #124

I don't care who his guests are, I will never watch Chucky Toad again. He is the worst Pisces Sep 2014 #8

MTP should go back to its original format, instead merrily Sep 2014 #15

I only watched to hear what the only person speaking for middle class had to say. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #43

I agree, Bernie did not fall for Todd's inept actions tiredtoo Sep 2014 #9

I like Bernie and would vote for him. But if he runs as an independent he could totodeinhere Sep 2014 #13

That is why we need Instant Runoff Voting SHRED Sep 2014 #20

After watching that video, I'd vote for him in a NYC second. merrily Sep 2014 #21

I believe he said he would do it as a democrat TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #45

He did not say either way. Said he had not made up his mind which to do. merrily Sep 2014 #60

Thank God for Bernie. He is the one person who is not afraid to defend our progressive views. I hope jwirr Sep 2014 #17

YES. merrily Sep 2014 #29

I will too, in the primary. I want to see a debate between him and other Democrats, it's often freshwest Sep 2014 #61

Wouldn't it be nice to vote FOR something for a change, woo me with science Sep 2014 #74

We NEED instant runoff voting! Bernie should challenge Democrats to do that! cascadiance Sep 2014 #81

+1 The system is rigged in so many ways. woo me with science Sep 2014 #108

I voted FOR Obama mimi85 Sep 2014 #102

If you are tired of kicking him, then you should stop. woo me with science Sep 2014 #106

I agree 100%. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #147

+10000. closeupready Sep 2014 #187

wow, Todd is just as much a douchebag as the last douchebag, MTP or TMZ? whereisjustice Sep 2014 #19

Too funny lark Sep 2014 #67

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #23

From your keyboard to voter's ears. merrily Sep 2014 #28

You got that right!!!!!! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #47

But.... merrily Sep 2014 #50

I am worried about his safety. woo me with science Sep 2014 #75

I agree. Outspoken liberal politicians do not fare well in this nation. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #83

If PBO has remained safe so far, thank goodness, I mimi85 Sep 2014 #100

I suspect the bankers would give PBO a lot of protection. woo me with science Sep 2014 #101

Yes. I think PBO would be in danger from a nut case like a Ted Nugent wannabe. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #138

+1 woo me with science Sep 2014 #140

Let me guess. "Poor people schmoore people. Hey what about Hillary Clinton?...." nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2014 #25

Valerief posted the clip. It's only a few minutes long. Great viewing! merrily Sep 2014 #62

Eating Todd for brunch seems like a recipe for indigestion. merrily Sep 2014 #26

He then spit him out....like this TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #49

+1000000 woo me with science Sep 2014 #76

Link to his Repub-promoting facebook First-Read page weaselbit Sep 2014 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #35

Facebook? mimi85 Sep 2014 #103

Bernie was great! redwitch Sep 2014 #46

N/T AuntPatsy Sep 2014 #48

Keep kicking! Sanders has earned it! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #52

note how Todd was doing everything in his power to try to divide the Democrats, and Bernie was did still_one Sep 2014 #54

Bernie chewed him up and spit him out. He'll beat the rebubs on the stage as well. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #57

That's the key. The Corporate/GOP MSM will *NOT* let a Bernie Sanders win. CakeGrrl Sep 2014 #94

Go Bernie. CentralMass Sep 2014 #145

hell, if he played up his pro-Israeli cred, maybe he could run in the Republican primary zazen Sep 2014 #63

Reminds me of an old nursery rhyme DFW Sep 2014 #68

Or...Chuck shills for oil spills on the seashore. valerief Sep 2014 #99

DUzy nom! nt ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2014 #104

What I loved most about it woo me with science Sep 2014 #70

+1 valerief Sep 2014 #79

The best part was the Koch Ads ZX86 Sep 2014 #82

I caught that as well. Koch; Using BILLIONS of dollars to destroy the livelyhoods of Millions of adirondacker Sep 2014 #96

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2014 #84

Sanders interview IS huge, now listen for the crickets TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #87

Was there a side of Russert hash browns? Blue Owl Sep 2014 #85

Kept it short so not a full meal, but Bernie did turn in into a full brunch! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #88

Thanks for posting. tosh Sep 2014 #89

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #90

To those who say they are very very concerned about how difficult it would be for Bernie to get some djean111 Sep 2014 #91

+1000 nt antigop Sep 2014 #97

+100000000000 woo me with science Sep 2014 #177

Bernie was great. Do not overlook Toad and the "Stay Safe" line in closing. gordianot Sep 2014 #92

Bernie!!! AzDar Sep 2014 #93

Kick to the 100 club! Sanders earned it!!!! woooo hoooo! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #98

OMG I love Bernie MissDeeds Sep 2014 #114

Thank you everyone! Sanders now a member of the over 100 club!! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #118

Great Job Bernie!! supercats Sep 2014 #121

Go Bernie! democrank Sep 2014 #122

If we want him we damn better well have his back. glinda Sep 2014 #132

He And Warren Will Be Hard To Marginalize colsohlibgal Sep 2014 #135

Is Chuck Todd actually a journalist? I just can't figure out how he got that gig... mackerel Sep 2014 #136

He's not which is WHY he got the gig. stillwaiting Sep 2014 #142

NBC sure took a wrong turn somewhere and just kept turning. mackerel Sep 2014 #143

Go Bernie Jake2413 Sep 2014 #139

Time to tweet it everywhere.... TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #141

Don't forget to like him on his Facebook page and organizational page! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #146

Have his back! Can we make him a member of the 200 rec club? Let's do it! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #148

Done n/t NikolaC Sep 2014 #185

Well done my friend, well done...n/t saidsimplesimon Sep 2014 #154

This is just the beginning! Keep K&R TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #157

At least the Repugs won't be able to say that he spends too much time playing golf. TexasTowelie Sep 2014 #162

171 recs Not shabby merrily Sep 2014 #164

Worst. Brunch. Ever. Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #167

If he runs, he has my vote. blackspade Sep 2014 #168

"Okay, but I'm being told to focus on you versus Hiliary, so can we beat that to death?" C Moon Sep 2014 #170

Democratic Party is working, working for the 1% whereisjustice Sep 2014 #172

He was great. 2016 is going to be a great election year. JDPriestly Sep 2014 #173

Sanders/Warren 2016! knr nt Veganhealedme Sep 2014 #174

Or Warren/Sanders. I'll take either combination in a heartbeat. n/t totodeinhere Sep 2014 #193

+1 either combo would be as good as it gets! nt Veganhealedme Sep 2014 #195

I am surprised Chuck Tool had Bernie on at all mdbl Sep 2014 #175

I think he and his handlers just really underestimated Bernie. n/t djean111 Sep 2014 #179

K&R Bernie would mop the floor with any chickpea brain the GOP ran against him. nt raouldukelives Sep 2014 #180

Wow, what a response so far SmittynMo Sep 2014 #182

If he runs, he's got my vote. nt Zorra Sep 2014 #183

I could be totally wrong. olegramps Sep 2014 #192

I disagree wholeheartedly. The principles he stands for, socialistic or whatever else you want to totodeinhere Sep 2014 #194

Well, only time will tell. First he has to get the nomination. olegramps Sep 2014 #197

No chance in hell anyone (Democrat or Republican) wins 40 states in 2016 Reter Sep 2014 #199

Jebby is not electable. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #200

He's more electable than his idiot brother Reter Sep 2014 #203

And, THANK YOU FOR MAKING SANDERS A MEMEBER OF THE OVER 200 REC CLUB! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #201

Ha! K&R and make him a 300 rec member! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #202

I wonder if Rachael will follow up with an interveiw? Or Chris Hayes? TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #205

cool, more Bernie Sanders threads with this video! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #206

Keep it going!!!!!!!!!!!!! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #208

Thank you everyone!!! Go Bernie! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #209

Can we get Chris Hayes to interview him on evening prime time? TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #210

Looks like the 'Bernie can't win' thread is the the general opinion around here. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #211

Why argue and allow this thread to slow up? TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #212

Go Bernie! TheKentuckian Sep 2014 #213

Indeed! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #214

I wonder if he'll be on any of the Sunday shows coming up?????? TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #215

After all I have heard all week, Sanders is still the best I've heard and will hear. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #216

Still here for Bernie until I see him again on the MSM TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #217