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293. Wow!!! Some rational thinking here. Amazing. I'm betting you get beat up for this

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 02:23 PM

Sep 2014

No one likes to be profiled, of course. My teenagers were continually profiled in the small town where we live. They love to harass teenagers. We had the cops come into my house when we were not there and my 19 year old son was having a birthday party,they went through my drawers, and my closets. Then arrested my son for alcohol in the house.

He didn't resist. When dealing with bullies with guns, do what they say, we taught them, and we will sort it out later. So he did, thank goodness.

She could have showed her ID, then filed charges against the cop later. She certainly has the money to get a lawyer and do something practical, rather than just mouth off. It didn't help her point at all. So while she might have been right, she was stupid. And that is a decision we each have to make for ourselves.

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LAPD Confuses Black Actress Kissing White Husband for Prostitute [View all] Blue_Tires Sep 2014 OP

saw this on local news, they said some "citizen" called the police to complain about it JI7 Sep 2014 #1

Ironically, in my hometown-- which used to be a "sunset town"-- Art_from_Ark Sep 2014 #168

I seriously doubt anyone called. That's just cop CYA. Probably the cops just saw them, tblue37 Sep 2014 #222

Horrible. Heidi Sep 2014 #2

K&R silverweb Sep 2014 #3

My grandson is biracial mimi85 Sep 2014 #13

Will the stupidity ever f*%#ing end? Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #4

Either it's getting worse malaise Sep 2014 #61

I'm Going With B ProfessorGAC Sep 2014 #104

I agree n/t malaise Sep 2014 #117

I think a little of both. PeoViejo Sep 2014 #133

Comments pages on the internet also allow many folks to say things they'd never malaise Sep 2014 #136

What really riles me PeoViejo Sep 2014 #144

Well we see that a lot more here than you do there malaise Sep 2014 #148

I presume NOLALady Sep 2014 #203

We're hearing it more. There was a time when these two would've been beaten, at best! arcane1 Sep 2014 #202

Maybe Obama can have a beer with the cops. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #204

Good grief. nt WhiteAndNerdy Sep 2014 #5

I can see why Dani�le Watts would be so insulted and Pissed that she wouldn't Cha Sep 2014 #6

It is humiliating. Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #16

These showings of resistance are necessary so the police are forced to use Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #162

Absolutely. Cha Sep 2014 #219

I was mistaken by a cop for a hooker Skittles Sep 2014 #7

ok..not going to make a joke steve2470 Sep 2014 #199

I WILL KICK VALUED steve2470 ARSE Skittles Sep 2014 #218

They used to harass us all the time on Broadway Ave. in San Antonio. Rozlee Sep 2014 #216

When I lived in LA I was stopped and hassled Demobrat Sep 2014 #8

LAPD are dickwads AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #9

Wow, what year did this happen? RE EDITED. zonkers Sep 2014 #263

Around 1981 AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #313

That was the "Daryl Gates" era. Chokeholds, Eleanor Bumpers. It all kind of led to the 93 riots, zonkers Sep 2014 #314

Oh yeah AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #322

But, arent we required, by law, to provide ID to the police if we are asked? TheDebbieDee Sep 2014 #10

No. Evidently CA has no "stop and identify law" cali Sep 2014 #11

At least we don't have mimi85 Sep 2014 #12

No--only in states that have a stop and identify law. tblue37 Sep 2014 #15

As a permanent resident, I am obliged to show my ID on demand. mwooldri Sep 2014 #217

K&R. nt tblue37 Sep 2014 #14

Maybe you should just Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #17

Why? Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #18

Because it's the adult thing to do. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #19

No, it's not. Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #21

I missed that in the article Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #24

Here, let me help you... Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #25

Where is the summons? Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #26

Where is the box on the ID that says "Prostitute: yes or no"? Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #28

Really? Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #29

I'll ask YOU again...Where is the box to check if you are a prosititue or not? Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #31

Cop wanted to run her name for priors. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #32

OH! All prostitutes have priors! Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #34

Oy vey Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #35

One can hope. Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #38

Good lunasun Sep 2014 #177

In more ways than you mean, I think (nt) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #197

finally thanks LOL, now go make sure you have your papers on you snooper2 Sep 2014 #241

All black women have priors? nt justiceischeap Sep 2014 #48

To many people - yes. JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #52

Really, that's what took away from the post. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #57

I don't need luck, I'm white. justiceischeap Sep 2014 #103

Are you ACTUALLY SAYING that anyone can AND OUGHT to be stopped so a cop can check "for priors"?! WinkyDink Sep 2014 #123

Uhhhh, no. I'm not saying that. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #124

How is that a stretch when that is exactly what you're saying? n/t kcr Sep 2014 #213

No, just anyone "suspicious".... who looks "out of place" Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #205

But HE HAD NO RIGHT TO DO THAT! Because she was not doing anything tblue37 Sep 2014 #225

so, if she had no priors, she is innocent, if she did- automatically guilty? Is that how the system bettyellen Sep 2014 #292

Just a guess. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #295

Summons is not arrested. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #33

Oh, that's better. Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #36

My friend JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #50

I seriously doubt that. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #60

Out of curiosity ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #179

Stay curious Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #252

I bet no one called the cops. They're covering their butts because they got tblue37 Sep 2014 #226

Actually, it is. Feral Child Sep 2014 #69

That's interesting. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #72

It's a charge of a violation of geek tragedy Sep 2014 #77

Fair enough. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #82

Legally, it's the same. Feral Child Sep 2014 #94

She was handcufed in public! That is offensive, even if no charges were filed-- tblue37 Sep 2014 #224

false on its face uponit7771 Sep 2014 #41

No, it's the quisling thing to do. Feral Child Sep 2014 #74

Quisling, huh? Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #79

I don't grok your post. Feral Child Sep 2014 #97

Don't feed the trolls. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #138

3500 posts since March 15, eh Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #141

I spend a lot of time online. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #146

3500 posts since March 15, eh Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #141

Copy that. Feral Child Sep 2014 #161

That's an interesting definition of ADULT: it's adult to conform, to defer to authority. enough Sep 2014 #112

Something like that I suppose Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #113

Anti-democratic (small "d"), anti-freedom, anti-Civil Rights stance. Let cops run rough- WinkyDink Sep 2014 #125

No---It is the acceding-to-Fascism thing to do. California cops cannot demand ID by LAW. WinkyDink Sep 2014 #121

It's the police who weren't acting like adults! CoffeeCat Sep 2014 #130

I'm with on your first point. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #132

PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #171

No. A black person may get stopped and hassled several times a day despite not tblue37 Sep 2014 #223

Considering the article as the sole source Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #248

Wow!!! Some rational thinking here. Amazing. I'm betting you get beat up for this adigal Sep 2014 #293

Thank you for your post. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #297

Cheers back to you - I have been piled on here, too adigal Sep 2014 #305

Why? She do something wrong? B Calm Sep 2014 #20

I guess the difference between you and me is Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #22

LOL... ok... you're late for work.. cop stops you and ask you for ID so he can take 2 seconds uponit7771 Sep 2014 #42

Wow. Aren't you the intuitive one. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #43

Doesn't take to much reasoning to see where people talk from a point of bad perspective uponit7771 Sep 2014 #45

Well ten years in the media Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #49

It's exactly the same JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #53

Look up Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #56

I did JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #58

You lost me Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #59

I'm sorry - responded below JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #63

LOL! Rex Sep 2014 #174

A textbook example of Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #261

Let me guess: White. IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #46

C'mon Ida, you can do better than that. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #114

Since I have been invited... IdaBriggs Sep 2014 #159

That's more like it. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #163

+1 Couldn't agree more! B Calm Sep 2014 #165

Not to mention that for a black person, any interaction with the police has the tblue37 Sep 2014 #227

Ok then. Where were we? Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #242

... Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #336

Sometimes you need to do what's not convenient... Dems2002 Sep 2014 #175

Hearing you. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #259

KWB* Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #23

I love ya! JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #55

I once got stopped for no reason when I was 19 Reter Sep 2014 #160

do you still support zimmerman ? JI7 Sep 2014 #27

I support equal protection regardless of race. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #30

so you no longer support Zimmerman ? JI7 Sep 2014 #39

How many times have you asked me this question. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #40

Here is a question for you. If she had been whit and kissing, would she have been "summoned" kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #47

She wasn't summoned at all, first. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #51

So, in your world, cops have the right to detain geek tragedy Sep 2014 #75

It's not just my world. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #89

Not according to the Supreme Court. nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #91

We don't need to live in YOUR world. U4ikLefty Sep 2014 #190

Maybe you should sit Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #243

It is wrongly, and we only live in that world because too many people go along tblue37 Sep 2014 #228

Do people ever look back and regret their rush to judgement? joeglow3 Sep 2014 #323

If they do Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #325

Naw, takes too much time. delete_bush Sep 2014 #335

You said - "I support equal protection regardless of race" Caretha Sep 2014 #155

Lame Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #156

This message was self-deleted by its author Demobrat Sep 2014 #37

She exercised her rights by not showing her ID. Vattel Sep 2014 #44

Both sides exercised their rights. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #54

I have to defend her side JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #62

I'm not saying what she did was wrong. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #64

See another response JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #71

If my wife and I were in that sich Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #76

That concedes the cops right to racially profile geek tragedy Sep 2014 #80

What we don't know is the context of location Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #83

They had no reasonable suspicion. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #84

We're kind of in agreement. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #86

No, I'm saying the problem is the cop, not geek tragedy Sep 2014 #90

It's not blame. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #98

"She created plausible suspicion." geek tragedy Sep 2014 #100

It's not my argument. It's the cops. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #101

Why should she have to do that..... BronxBoy Sep 2014 #129

Actually it was mike bloomberg thinking that way Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #131

I was going to let it go, but as an English teacher I just have to say, "defuse." tblue37 Sep 2014 #229

Yeah you got me there. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #247

Typing with arthritic hands on a mobile keyboard. Yes, I accidentally got a "c" in there where tblue37 Sep 2014 #324

Because I know probably some of the same people you know JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #93

Something similar happened to my husband. NOLALady Sep 2014 #211

Actually, you won't get much argument Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #250

It gives implicit consent to the continued abuse of power for its own sake. LanternWaste Sep 2014 #330

And if those were the facts Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #333

My husband is a Black man NOLALady Sep 2014 #209

My parents were run off the road JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #234

The cops don't have a right to be racist jackbooted thugs. nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #65

Agreed. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #67

She was detained because she was kissing a white man. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #73

They have NO right to detain without proibable cause RedCappedBandit Sep 2014 #102

Fine. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #106

It's clear that you're not very close to this issue. NT RedCappedBandit Sep 2014 #107

Is it now. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #108

Not when they had no probable cause, and thus no RIGHT, to demand her ID in tblue37 Sep 2014 #232

According to the cop, there was a call made in about lewd acts being comitted. LisaL Sep 2014 #240

I suppose that without the details Vattel Sep 2014 #66

Probably true. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #68

Why should we have to? a la izquierda Sep 2014 #70

Ask the goverment. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #78

There is no law requiring people to carry ID. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #81

That may be true Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #85

NO THEY CAN'T. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #87

Yes. And yes they can. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #92

It's illegal for them to do so. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #95

They're breaking the law. RedCappedBandit Sep 2014 #105

+infinity. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #145

What If, Because You're NOT Driving. . . ProfessorGAC Sep 2014 #110

The problem with your argument is Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #111

No it isn't gollygee Sep 2014 #116

Keep reading Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #128

Prove It ProfessorGAC Sep 2014 #120

Here you go Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #126

What about the part where they can't do that? PoutrageFatigue Sep 2014 #140

Let's start with 1 and I'll be happy to go to two Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #147

Refusing to produce a photo ID does not mean she had one muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #198

May be Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #249

As police officers, they should have known it was their duty to back off at that point muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #251

Lol Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #253

Good for her for refusing. phylny Sep 2014 #215

You said - "I'm showing my ID abd walking the f away. Feel free to make your own choice" Caretha Sep 2014 #157

You were alerted on, just so you know. 99Forever Sep 2014 #169

I've been at work Caretha Sep 2014 #207

They can because they do? That's some circular reasoning you've got going on there. suffragette Sep 2014 #186

Please, your're not saying what I think your saying Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #246

Have you considered they do because... BklnDem75 Sep 2014 #238

Some states are stop and identify, like CO. joshcryer Sep 2014 #99

When I read about the civil case Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #109

You will. joshcryer Sep 2014 #134

Fair enough Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #135

FWIW, I think stop and identify is illegal. joshcryer Sep 2014 #164

I hear you. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #260

I agree, in this country, we are not required to have ID on us treestar Sep 2014 #166

CA is not a stop and identify state. joshcryer Sep 2014 #96

MAYBE THE COPS SHOULD OBEY THEIR OWN STATE'S LAWS. WinkyDink Sep 2014 #119

Again. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #122

It is her LEGAL RIGHT to refuse to show it. Did YOU read the whole thing? It wasn't a traffic stop. WinkyDink Sep 2014 #127

Again. She is not required to produce ID by law. PoutrageFatigue Sep 2014 #150

Who are you talking to Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #151

Well, let's see, I'm not aware that the cops, or the actress are posting... PoutrageFatigue Sep 2014 #152

Point Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #153

HOLY FUCK SHE REFUSED TO SHOW HER ID Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #206

She was not driving, so she does not have to carry ID treestar Sep 2014 #167

Maybe cops should not instantly profile people based on racist notions? Rex Sep 2014 #172

If as the husband wrote the police whistler162 Sep 2014 #236

The caller did not cuff and detain Danielle... BklnDem75 Sep 2014 #239

The conversation was held and she refused a request for ID whistler162 Sep 2014 #303

She has a right to refuse... BklnDem75 Sep 2014 #306

No arguement from me. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #256

I never carry ID. hunter Sep 2014 #180

And you told the cop which? Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #254

Once, as a brash young man, I said the flowery equivalent of "fuck you" but that didn't end well. hunter Sep 2014 #274

Likewise to a large extent. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #275

What singular point? That we should passively accept police abuse? hunter Sep 2014 #280

Maybe it's don't sweat the small stuff. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #282

It's not small stuff. hunter Sep 2014 #286

If you're referring to the OP Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #288

Dear badge bunnies, badge backers, bootlickers, cop-cultists and so-called "cops" 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #191

Why the fuck are you telling me this. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #255

Just to clarify, by "so-called cops" I'm talking about the violent psychopaths who joined the force 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #264

Maybe you should read the constitution. cui bono Sep 2014 #195

Would you point me to the spot in the Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #257

Unreal. The arresting officers should face consequences for this. Chemisse Sep 2014 #88

1st their bosses heard about the incident was when posted online. cops Didnt even file a report Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #212

I don't even get this! get the red out Sep 2014 #115

PLUS ONE! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #173

CA can't require ID! Disturbing acknowledgment from a CA cop (see first reply): WinkyDink Sep 2014 #118

That answer was rather chilling to read...and the "Great Answer!" response... ScreamingMeemie Sep 2014 #188

Do johns normally kiss their tricks? HipChick Sep 2014 #137

That struck me as well. Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #154

NO. Rex Sep 2014 #182

BTW, I am not going to ask how you know that, but just HipChick Sep 2014 #183

Very good observation on your part. Rex Sep 2014 #185

Exactly..scraping the barrel for excuses for racial profiling HipChick Sep 2014 #192

or leave the door to the car open ? KurtNYC Sep 2014 #301

No words. merrily Sep 2014 #139

A more correct title... Nosey parker mistakes husband and wife whistler162 Sep 2014 #141

Dumbass cops...nt SidDithers Sep 2014 #149

Good for her! The people who cave and comply just embolden the cops to do more of this crap. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2014 #158

Did They Ask Her White Husband For ID otohara Sep 2014 #170

Yes, they did ask him, and he showed it muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #200

in SoCal no less�. dhill926 Sep 2014 #176

Clearly a case of kissing while black and white. L0oniX Sep 2014 #178

This thread taught me something important about my ignore list alcibiades_mystery Sep 2014 #181

Don't do that JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #187

Well, Los Angeles being the Deep South and all, are we really that surprised? nt Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #184

Well, I learned a lot from this thread. ScreamingMeemie Sep 2014 #189

Right? PoutrageFatigue Sep 2014 #193

This: Brigid Sep 2014 #194

Zee did not show zee papers!! Strelnikov_ Sep 2014 #196

just horrible nt steve2470 Sep 2014 #201

it has happened before. i recall that the interacial couple had to show their matching wedding Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #208

before they realized she was a celebrity, they threatened her with ambulance and drugging Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #210

2nd most read story on dailymail today. comments are overwhelmingly anti police state Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #214

SUE!!!!! Norm Guy Sep 2014 #220

If she can find the person who called the whistler162 Sep 2014 #235

I had to kick the duplicate of this thread in order to make a comment..... Norm Guy Sep 2014 #221

This message was self-deleted by its author Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2014 #230

Motherfuckers IronLionZion Sep 2014 #231

Seems another good argument to legalize prostitution. Trillo Sep 2014 #233

If it wasn't this, it would be something else gollygee Sep 2014 #237

Update from TMZ with audio of the interaction between her and LAPD 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #244

It's an audio of what happened. LisaL Sep 2014 #245

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO RESPOND TO ME HERE? Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #266

Sure, had her story (which may be bullshit) been true you'd be wrong. If the Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2014 #268

Go read my first response then listen to the audio Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #269

Meh.... It's been explained to you throughout the thread why you would've been wrong. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2014 #270

LOL Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #271

Whatever you say champ. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2014 #272

Best damn crickets I ever heard. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #304

Even self-perceived self-validation is better than no self-validation at all... LanternWaste Sep 2014 #331

But when it's actual Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #332

Daddy Daddy! LOL snooper2 Sep 2014 #294

I hope she and her husband sue the fuck out of those racist pigs SaltyBro Sep 2014 #258

Are you going to come back and admit the cop was right and you were wrong? joeglow3 Sep 2014 #326

In this day and age and in Studio city, no less! (really an adjunct of Hollywood). No decent cop zonkers Sep 2014 #262

Eyewitnesses claim they had sexual intercourse in public. closeupready Sep 2014 #265

There is zero proof that this was the case SaltyBro Sep 2014 #273

Here on DU, there typically IS "zero proof" of anything that closeupready Sep 2014 #279

If you actually believe that, I have a bridge to sell you. NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #289

why? How do you think the police got there? What's more likely cali Sep 2014 #290

Most likely? Someone didn't like a biracial couple kissing. NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #291

Eyewitness accounts, particularly where parts are independently corroborated, closeupready Sep 2014 #296

Then why were they not summonsed or arrested? NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #309

Arrest a witness - why? ??? closeupready Sep 2014 #317

Wow... NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #318

Oh ok, I get it - you hate cops. Anything else closeupready Sep 2014 #320

I'd rather stand with the people of Ferguson, MO. NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #321

Wow. What a disgusting move to avoid admitting your rush to judgement made you look like a fool. joeglow3 Sep 2014 #327

Most likely police are not that interested in pursuing this type of alleged crime. LisaL Sep 2014 #329

In studio city! If you believe that Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #298

Racism exists everywhere. Even in the bluest of places. NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #308

You ain't gotta tell me boss. Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #310

Then why would you deny it in studio city. NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #311

Racism may exist in studio city Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #316

A police department is about to be sued Gothmog Sep 2014 #267

So, kissing is now --- oldandhappy Sep 2014 #276

Newest reports indicate they were doing a lot more than kissing Bonx Sep 2014 #277

OK Thanks oldandhappy Sep 2014 #278

Newest reports? gollygee Sep 2014 #281

Well, they do have the original audio Bonx Sep 2014 #283

Where she does exactly what? gollygee Sep 2014 #284

I'll leave you to argue the semantics Bonx Sep 2014 #285

It isn't a semantic argument. It's a political argument. gollygee Sep 2014 #287

You are right, the cop was wrong, instead of saying "bringing up the race card" snooper2 Sep 2014 #299

hehe TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #300

Audio has been released: KurtNYC Sep 2014 #302

Is YOUR state on the "Stop and Identify" list? Thank God mine is not (nor is CA): WinkyDink Sep 2014 #307

The distinction Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #312

California's stop and identify status is a murky mess. Xithras Sep 2014 #315

Those laws only require you to identify yourself verbally. NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #319

She didn't ID herself verbally. LisaL Sep 2014 #328

I know. NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #334

She kept talking on the phone and walked away... joeybee12 Sep 2014 #337