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In reply to the discussion: Hmmm? I wonder why people chose to leave off this part of Michael's interview [View all]Jakes Progress
(11,124 posts)do you blindly support the very things you just stated that you not support? If you rail against liberals for chastising Obama for doing these things, then why do you then say that you don't support them. That is the rise to the concept of you being worth dismissal.
You have a very passive-agressive arguing style where you claim that those who disagree with you are being condescending and insulting when they use the same tone and style that you do to argue your point. You were quite off-putting with your suggestion that anyone as smart as you would have known all along that Obama wasn't a liberal. But it became clear why you would say such a thing since you were not in the country during the election. You did not take part in the precinct primaries. You did not read the campaign material put out by the Obama campaign as guides to the volunteers. You did not hear the promises and declarations of union support, of ending wars, of stopping surveillance, of getting main street working ahead of wall street.
I found your avoidance of my questions and the issues to be very insulting. Now you have stated your position on these issues, but you still do not provide information about how you reconcile your support of Obama doing these things in reality while not supporting them in principle.
Your premise that Obama would be remembered for many great things is wrong. The few, half-hearted attempts were late in coming or hampered by a lack of urgency on his part. He was dragged into belatedly supporting LGBT issues. The US population as a whole was way ahead of him on that. He crippled "the affordable care act" by making behind the scenes deals with pharma before negotiations were even begun. (This after loud exhortations during the election about how his administration would be the most transparent in history.) This administration has been a slow, but wide, step to the right. People who live in the US have to deal with the outcomes of that step.
(Just a note. I guess I could have been clearer about the crimes that were being suppressed. I apologize if you didn't know about cheney's treason because you live in another country. He had name of spies published. His treasonous behavior in the Valerie Plame affair caused the deaths of several middle east secret operatives. As soon as he was in office and was pressed on this issue, Obama's position was to "look forward, not into the past". It would have done our country good to have someone like cheney held accountable.)