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Fred Sanders

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18. Your idyllic notion of fairness is what the $15 minimum wage issue is all about, to unchain workers

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 11:04 PM

Sep 2014

from the corporate notion that they will work harder for tips than they will for the personal dignity of fair wages for fair work.

Corporations in competition will always keep the workers as chattels model, competition will force that, unless the entire field is levelled by mandatory minimum wage and benefits law.

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Marriott hotels launch envelope campaign to get guests in the habit of tipping maids [View all] TexasTowelie Sep 2014 OP

I always leave a tip�. dhill926 Sep 2014 #1

I think it is a good idea also, I think the maids may agree...I have no idea what they are paid, but Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author TexasTowelie Sep 2014 #9

Me, too customerserviceguy Sep 2014 #54

Yeah, I like to leave a tip, too. These people work HARD!!! calimary Sep 2014 #63

it,s a very hard job. Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #109

same here still_one Sep 2014 #126

I think maids pretty much top out at minimum wage already. LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #2

I agree. Every hotel should at least have an envelope labelled FOR MAID, nothing else needed. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #6

Agreed, I'm removing it. nt TexasTowelie Sep 2014 #13

Shriver has a very one-percentric approach to women's empowerment elehhhhna Sep 2014 #3

+1 truebluegreen Sep 2014 #86

Plenty of hotels do this already. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #5

I sincerely hope that I'm wrong and Marriott does not use it as an excuse. TexasTowelie Sep 2014 #8

I agree with you left is right Sep 2014 #72

Exactly..PAY YOUR MAIDS a living wage SoCalDem Sep 2014 #76

Oh, I love not having to make a bed every day. However, I tip when I leave. CTyankee Sep 2014 #150

+1 nt MADem Sep 2014 #66

How about paying a living wage instead of expecting customers to do it for you? Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #7

DING, winner. I love how they launch the campaign because they wont pay a decent wage NightWatcher Sep 2014 #12

Beg to differ A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #15

It's difficult to find them near major airports Art_from_Ark Sep 2014 #56

Either way, the customer is paying FrodosPet Sep 2014 #16

YES. All companies should pay a living wage and not merrily Sep 2014 #103

Your idyllic notion of fairness is what the $15 minimum wage issue is all about, to unchain workers Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #18

couldn't agree more... handmade34 Sep 2014 #19

I know what you are saying, tips could be better in the long run yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #45

That's a shitty justification for not paying a living wage, honestly Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #59

They could pay a higher wage with what they spent on the envelopes rocktivity Sep 2014 #10

Yeah.....cause $.03 per room per day is a hefty raise! n/t A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #11

Plus what they paid the printer, designer, distrubutor rocktivity Sep 2014 #17

Yeah, and when you add all that up and buy them in the quantities they're buying them.... A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #20

Don't lick them! FrodosPet Sep 2014 #31

Charge more and pay more FrodosPet Sep 2014 #14

And what will all the hotels across the street do..they will offer the lower price. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #21

OK make it a room tax that EVERY hotel must charge FrodosPet Sep 2014 #23

Increase the minimum wage, it could be $15 base with higher minimums for other more skilled Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #26

Oh how funny yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #48

If many travelers don't understand that tipping is customary, it isn't. Gormy Cuss Sep 2014 #22

DING DING DING! Gormy Cuss, you're our grand prize winners! rocktivity Sep 2014 #24

I have "chambermaids" in my family Gormy Cuss Sep 2014 #27

I pay to insure prompt service... Historic NY Sep 2014 #60

I really wish that when you check in they give you the option of charging a daily tip for the maid Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #25

The only workable solution is a much higher minimum wage...there is no other. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #29

Nope, that's where I draw the tipping line. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #28

If you were being reimbursed for leaving a tip, you would not be leaving a tip, your employer would. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #30

I am only there at my employer's behest. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #32

Also note, for pleasure travel, I am under my own policies. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #33

If your employer reimburses you for other tips, then why not a 10% hotel house staff tip? Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #34

That's the policy. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #35

"...my employer stiffs maid staff." LOL! cherokeeprogressive Sep 2014 #39

I hear you cherokeeprogressive Skittles Sep 2014 #47

When I am on business travel, it is my employer, not me. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #50

well I disagree Skittles Sep 2014 #58

I can't imagine checking out of a clean hotel room and NOT leaving a tip. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2014 #89

I cannot and will not be expected to go to additional expense at my employer's behest. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #51

You should call the hotel and tell them not to clean your room before you get there ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #53

No. That is the HOTEL's entire business model JimDandy Sep 2014 #61

feel free to treat tipping is solely discretionary CreekDog Sep 2014 #145

I cleaned hotel rooms to put myself through college. JimDandy Sep 2014 #154

and you're going to tip them until they get one, correct? CreekDog Sep 2014 #158

They clean the room for my employer, not for me. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #83

here's the thing, leaving even a dollar or two would be an acknowledgment that the maids are KittyWampus Sep 2014 #91

It's bullshit. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #111

we enjoy watching you begrudge people $1 or $2 per day to clean up after you CreekDog Sep 2014 #146

I've heard people say that it's not customary to tip cabbies either. Gormy Cuss Sep 2014 #151

They clean the room for you. morningfog Sep 2014 #127

he's afraid to cheat his employer by not letting the maids clean his room during his stays CreekDog Sep 2014 #160

Bollocks. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #67

Your questions have obvious answers for this poster. stillwaiting Sep 2014 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #68

How cheap. former9thward Sep 2014 #69

Get a business card: My cheapskate employer is paying the tip; adjust service accordingly. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2014 #98

A clean room, clean towels, etc. is the business model of a hotel. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #118

and it is clean when you arrive, and you can pick up clean towels from the front desk CreekDog Sep 2014 #161

I'm rarely in a hotel room more than a single night when traveling for business. eom MohRokTah Sep 2014 #163

Put the tip in your travel claim CreekDog Sep 2014 #144

you haven't told us why you don't refuse maid service during your work trips CreekDog Sep 2014 #159

Because that is their job. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #164

And the truth finally comes out. It's got jack shit to do with your employer's imaginary policy. morningfog Sep 2014 #166

So on your own dime, housekeeping is worth $10 per day on a $100 motel room Gormy Cuss Sep 2014 #124

I can honestly say Skittles Sep 2014 #46

When I am on business travel, it is my employers tipping, not me. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #49

I disagree Skittles Sep 2014 #57

When I travel, the maids are performing a service for my employer, not for me. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #82

A kind person who appreciates the work of others would leave a few dollars of their own. KittyWampus Sep 2014 #92

No, I refuse to expend any of my own funds on business trips. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #94

So, if you should have explosive diarrhea, and leave a nice mess splattered Sheldon Cooper Sep 2014 #104

his answer is likely.... A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #119

...... smokey nj Sep 2014 #123

. reflection Sep 2014 #121

Do you get paid while traveling for business or do provide that service for free? cherokeeprogressive Sep 2014 #99

I get paid for working. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #100

I guess the biggest difference between you and me is that I would NEVER admit in public... cherokeeprogressive Sep 2014 #105

No kidding...is a few bucks gonna kill his personal budget? likesmountains 52 Sep 2014 #107

I am allowed one drink with dinner. eom MohRokTah Sep 2014 #110

Well you sure as hell wouldn't be having that drink with me. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2014 #115

Only during business travel. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #116

then claim the tip on your travel claim CreekDog Sep 2014 #147

Yes, because policy explicity spells out how much of a tip I can give to taxis and in restaurants. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #155

I travel on business, tip hotel maids, and it never even occurred to me MadrasT Sep 2014 #96

THANK YOU Skittles Sep 2014 #122

that's what I was thinking, I'm money ahead on travel because the company pays for meals wellstone dem Sep 2014 #130

That's shitty, on your part. LexVegas Sep 2014 #141

Oh well. When traveling for pleasure, I do tip maids. eom MohRokTah Sep 2014 #142

Pay them a living wage. Luminous Animal Sep 2014 #36

I tip the maids Stargazer09 Sep 2014 #37

you know what d_r Sep 2014 #38

Who's next? Tip a teacher if Jr gets an A? Tip a nurse if you get well? NightWatcher Sep 2014 #40

Nurses and teachers customerserviceguy Sep 2014 #55

Glassdoor.com reports Marriott housekeeping makes an average of $8.32 an hour. . . Journeyman Sep 2014 #41

Always tip! Laffy Kat Sep 2014 #42

Well, you know what I say? TexasTowelie Sep 2014 #43

True, but my God they stink of bleach. Laffy Kat Sep 2014 #52

I usually bring a microfiber towel whistler162 Sep 2014 #75

I've always left a tip Skittles Sep 2014 #44

Well, I won't be going to Marriotts. I already pay an arm and a leg as it is 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #62

Your last line got it right Prophet 451 Sep 2014 #64

I spent my high school years as a chambermaid laundry_queen Sep 2014 #65

Tipping chambermaids is not customary in the US. In Europe, maybe, but No Vested Interest Sep 2014 #70

I am very aware that the people who clean my room when I stay in a hotel SheilaT Sep 2014 #71

How about a living wage instead? Trillo Sep 2014 #73

What about paying the maids a living wage so that tips aren't needed Chisox08 Sep 2014 #74

I usually leave $3 or $4 a day for the maid. badtoworse Sep 2014 #77

I don't tip motel maids. What they charge to spend a night for a little room, B Calm Sep 2014 #78

That's pretty self-serving. badtoworse Sep 2014 #79

I want them to organize and join a labor union. Tipping them B Calm Sep 2014 #80

Are you out there organizing? badtoworse Sep 2014 #81

No, I'm not a hotel maid! B Calm Sep 2014 #84

What an odd cause... Oktober Sep 2014 #85

It's like Lovey Howell lecturing the hoi polloi on largesse. Shameless. nt Romulox Sep 2014 #88

BS. Marriott should pay their workers a living wage and not just help them beg. n/t FSogol Sep 2014 #90

Tip heavily until we can get them living wages. n/t Orsino Sep 2014 #93

I think it's about time employers pay their employees - TBF Sep 2014 #95

We should do away with ALL tipping. cbdo2007 Sep 2014 #97

How about Marriott pay living wages. dilby Sep 2014 #101

They are not going to pay them less than upaloopa Sep 2014 #102

I tip regularly, and a few times a year do a very large tip. Not Me Sep 2014 #106

good idea Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #108

I agree! tazkcmo Sep 2014 #112

I always tip because I'm a messy guest nt TeamPooka Sep 2014 #113

A tipping society is an excuse for employers not pay people for work done tenderfoot Sep 2014 #114

Don't get me started on tip jars MohRokTah Sep 2014 #117

I NEVER put money in the tip jar. I put it in servers' HANDS. MY gratuity is PERSONAL and heartfelt. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2014 #132

I tip wait staff, bartenders, cabbies, even maids when traveling for pleasure and not business. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #133

Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #134

So are employers that pay wait staff peanuts! tenderfoot Sep 2014 #136

+1 This guy is a piece of work. badtoworse Sep 2014 #138

I also tip cash only TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #139

This post is an excuse for not leaving an acceptable GRATUITY for services provided. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2014 #131

I leave 20% because I know they're paid for s*** in the first place. tenderfoot Sep 2014 #135

The more you sout off, the more I'm convinced I should stop tipping altogether. eom MohRokTah Sep 2014 #137

by all means, if it makes you to feel better to punish low paid employees, then that's what you do CreekDog Sep 2014 #149

Hillary wants her avatar back CreekDog Sep 2014 #153

So you're punishing cherokeeprogressive by taking money out of a hard-working bullwinkle428 Sep 2014 #156

An old boss told me something a long time ago Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2014 #120

Penny Pritzker of Hyatt holds what position? edgineered Sep 2014 #125

We stay at Marriotts almost exclusively, because of its rewards program, and we customarily phylny Sep 2014 #128

I pile up the towels TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #140

There Are People RobinA Sep 2014 #143

Well, Coke can left on the end table TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #165

I hang up all of the used towels over the shower curtain rod. I had a bullwinkle428 Sep 2014 #157

Great idea atreides1 Sep 2014 #129

Tipping is a tax on generosity. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2014 #148

Why not cut the pretense and just turn the housekeepers into contractors? rocktivity Sep 2014 #152

Pay the maids at least $15 an hour and... steve2470 Sep 2014 #162