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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
8. Notice the Gap 61-63.
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 10:09 AM
Sep 2014
JFK Conference: James DiEugenio made clear how Foreign Policy changed after November 22, 1963

As a Democrat, a DUer and as a citizen of the United States, I was proud to attend the Passing the Torch: An International Symposium on the 50th Anniversary of the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy at Duquesne University. One of the many important things discussed there was what author, historian and teacher, James DiEugenio reported on the important change in foreign policy JFK represented from his predecessor and his successors, immediate and otherwise.



DiEugenio said President John F. Kennedy did not undergo a change of heart from Cold War hawk to liberal dove Democrat only after the hair-raising nuclear crises he experienced in office. "John F. Kennedy was never a Cold Warrior," DiEugenio said. Throughout his 16-year career in the House and Senate, President Kennedy sided with the People, Justice and Democracy -- across the United States and around the world. This is a world view radically different from Eisenhower, and his foreign policy makers, principally the Dulles Brothers and their allies, including young Dick Nixon.

The JFK Administration may have represented a break in the action, H20 Man's Father explained to him and I agree. It was a special interlude, indeed. In only 1,037 days, we launched the nation toward the moon, creating a new type of economy; maintained the peace when several times the heads of the military and the secret organs of the national security state counseled all-out war; and started the nation on a path where all men are equal under the law, no matter race, color, or creed, and justice extended to economics and health, as under FDR and the New Deal.

DiEugenio’s research shows President Kennedy was working to defend the interests of democracy over those of colonialism, not only in Europe, as evinced in divided Berlin, but in Africa, Asia, South America and around the world. During less than three years in office, Kennedy turned official U.S. support from that of Eisenhower and the Dulles Brothers for supporting US commercial and colonial interests over democracy, such as in Guatemala and Iran, to respect for the nations and their democratically elected leaders, like Lumumba and Sukarno. In matters of war and peace, JFK always sided with peace, making overtures to North Vietnam. The Dulles Brothers and Nixon sided with France and the colonial powers, even drawing up plans to nuke the North Vietnamese Army at Dien Bien Phu, Operation VULTURE.

The record shows JFK's Foreign Policy of democracy over colonialism was immediately reversed by Lyndon B. Johnson, who reversed course in Vietnam and supported the pro-colonialist forces in Congo, Vietnam, Brazil, Dominican Republic and elsewhere around the world. Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford and most who followed continued the Business-As-Usual, advancing the interests of Big Money, Big Oil and Big Wars for Profit.

One of the things I am most proud of is how Democratic Underground covered many of these salient points on its boards, from DU1 through the present day. At the Duquesne conference, I was listening and nodding, knowing that many times we had discussed this on DU. In looking back to one particularly important post through GOOGLE, I found we sourced this information back to DiEugenio. That's what the Internet can do: Spread Truth.

Why it matters.

Democracy depends on Truth. The Republic depends on Justice. That is, the reality that ours is a nation under law.

Once a criminal is, or criminals are, allowed to go free, Justice has been denied. We find ourselves operating under a falsehood, we are living a Big Lie.

We as a Nation have been on the criminal path since November 22, 1963.

DUers know you don’t need to read a history book or watch a tee vee special to know: It shows. Since 1964 and the Gulf of Tonkin, it’s been a series of wars without end for profit. And in the process, the rich became super-rich -- the richest and most powerful people in history.

PS: Thanks, Scuba! Don't mean to hog the bandwidth, but the next 50 years can be different -- they can be decades of peace and prosperity for ALL: They can be Democratic. What we need is to keep spreading the Truth, DU!

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They forgot Iraq 2003- did we stop? and 2014 nt magical thyme Sep 2014 #1
Perhaps others as well. There's so many. Scuba Sep 2014 #2
I'm sure there are others... magical thyme Sep 2014 #4
The list is from 2011 OnlinePoker Sep 2014 #20
yes but think about all the countries we haven't bombed. el_bryanto Sep 2014 #3
In all fairness, Tasmania is part of Australia Art_from_Ark Sep 2014 #6
Related: Link to list of US Military operations based on Committee on International Relations data think Sep 2014 #5
usa 1985 unblock Sep 2014 #7
Notice the Gap 61-63. Octafish Sep 2014 #8
Well said, Octafish. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2014 #14
+1961 nationalize the fed Sep 2014 #16
Great post. Thanks for reminding us of what could have been and what still can be. Karmadillo Sep 2014 #19
the truth navarth Sep 2014 #40
I wish Octafish were correct here, but . . FairWinds Sep 2014 #43
Isn't that what Noam Chomsky wrote? Octafish Sep 2014 #61
So violating the Geneva Accords in 1961 and sending military advisers to VN doesn't count? hack89 Sep 2014 #57
That is so. But JFK did not bomb Vietnam. Octafish Sep 2014 #60
Withdrawing 1000 out of 16,000 troops while invading Laos hack89 Sep 2014 #62
John M. Newman, in ''JFK and Vietnam,'' sourced a new understanding of the history. Octafish Sep 2014 #71
Spain, January 1966 lpbk2713 Sep 2014 #9
But Those Are "Freedom" Bombs Liberal_Dog Sep 2014 #10
Few Americans Brainstormy Sep 2014 #11
China 1945-1946? Iran 1998? Are you sure the list is accurate? Chathamization Sep 2014 #12
I believe the China attacks Feral Child Sep 2014 #29
But the US wasn’t fighting the Chinese communists at the time. The US was actually pushing for peace Chathamization Sep 2014 #49
I could be wrong about the dates that I recall. Feral Child Sep 2014 #53
Yes, but the fact that we bombed a lot of countries doesn’t mean it doesn’t matter who was on Chathamization Sep 2014 #55
It appears they were bombing Japan JonLP24 Sep 2014 #32
Why do you hate America? malaise Sep 2014 #13
Peru? Indonesia? Good grief. Glorfindel Sep 2014 #15
Interesting - notice the general trend packman Sep 2014 #17
Well hey we are the war country. Initech Sep 2014 #18
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCkQFjAA&url=http stupidicus Sep 2014 #21
Ah! I love the smell of MIC$$$ in the morning! KansDem Sep 2014 #22
But..but...they hated us for our freedom!! Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #23
We've really got it in for Guatemala. CrispyQ Sep 2014 #24
What is up with Guatemala? jwirr Sep 2014 #25
Allen Welsh Dulles and United Fruit Company Octafish Sep 2014 #27
That's a good refresher, Octafish. Feral Child Sep 2014 #31
USA has killed MILLIONS to defeat "Communism." Octafish Sep 2014 #47
Absolute agreement, Octafish. Feral Child Sep 2014 #52
Oh, General Smedley Butler! Feral Child Sep 2014 #54
Ah, another Standard Oil and Venezuela. jwirr Sep 2014 #33
Same Group. Octafish Sep 2014 #48
"It is run by an oligarchy of wealthy landowners and big business interests" tclambert Sep 2014 #35
Awww man..... daleanime Sep 2014 #38
Check out "Men with Guns" to get a feel of this. broiles Sep 2014 #39
Octafish I would love to get a closer look at that painting. Can you advise? nt navarth Sep 2014 #42
Go to Midtown and look for the building across from the Library. Octafish Sep 2014 #46
Shame on me. navarth Sep 2014 #50
You are correct. It is a different painting... Octafish Sep 2014 #58
I was just wondering how I'd gotten this far in the thread with no mention of JF Dulles DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2014 #64
We've become Feral Child Sep 2014 #26
We're doing a poor job if the goal is to bomb them all... joeybee12 Sep 2014 #28
And yet, we are told, 'fear Pakistan!', 'fear Syria!', 'fear Palestinians!' closeupready Sep 2014 #30
That's a really ugly site you're linking to. nt Codeine Sep 2014 #34
Any port in a storm. zappaman Sep 2014 #63
Blame America first? Where do you get off? DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2014 #65
Any port in a storm. zappaman Sep 2014 #66
Super. But one lousy website does nothing at all DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2014 #67
Yemen, Somalia? DrDan Sep 2014 #36
Just wait, Canada, your turn is coming. tclambert Sep 2014 #37
Ya'll a bunch of blame-america-firsters KG Sep 2014 #41
USA #1 let's win another Nobel. 840high Sep 2014 #44
'let's win another Nobel...', or else. closeupready Sep 2014 #45
It is incomplete. Recently: Pakistan, Yemen, Sudan, Somalia, Iraq. Upcoming: Syria. morningfog Sep 2014 #51
we've also bombed ourselves quite a bit as well. Terra Alta Sep 2014 #56
bombs r us noiretextatique Sep 2014 #59
Since 1980, we even have our militarized police turn against us... truedelphi Sep 2014 #68
All Part Of Maintaining An Empire - Have To Protect Corporate Interests cantbeserious Sep 2014 #69
We are to assume based on that list treestar Sep 2014 #70
Bill Maher was talking about all the countries we have bombed.. Stellar Sep 2014 #72
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