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merrily

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246. Yeah I am not sure that is what Obama was doing.

Tue Sep 16, 2014, 12:02 PM

Sep 2014

IMO, that just might be another of them there untrue memes. "Democrats are always caving to Republicans" also may be.

Somehow, one way or the other Republicans are responsible in our eyes for 100% of what Republicans do or don't do that we don't like; and, one way or another, Republicans are also responsible in our eyes for 100% of what Democrats do or don't do that we don't like. I'm not buying it anymore.

The man said that his politics are those of a moderate Republican in the 1980s. Has anything he has done in the past six years as President been inconsistent with his own description of himself? If not, why would we assume that trying to make Republicans love him accounts for anything he's done or not done? How about he did what he did because of his very own political philosophy, as he himself described it to us with his own mouth?

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"He is not a Democrat." [View all] WilliamPitt Sep 2014 OP

Stay out of small planes, Bernie, stay out of small planes. NV Whino Sep 2014 #1

That was one of the first things I thought about.... Darkhawk32 Sep 2014 #22

JFK Juniored? (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #129

ok. n/t Darkhawk32 Sep 2014 #146

Wellstoned & JFK Jr'ed? billhicks76 Sep 2014 #186

Yep. nt GoneFishin Sep 2014 #196

+1 merrily Sep 2014 #30

YES niyad Sep 2014 #64

If that happened the gig would be so up. It would usher in the national razor. Ed Suspicious Sep 2014 #115

If a group with the ability to cause planes to crash wanted Sanders dead, Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #120

I know. I'm so tired of that nonsense 7962 Sep 2014 #127

The truth is they don't do that anymore, they hire Security Contractors to conduct opposition sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #260

Nailed it. merrily Sep 2014 #273

I know, I noticed too. Did you know he has a temper? Lol! sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #279

^^^^^^^^ LiberalElite Sep 2014 #136

He needs body guards. glinda Sep 2014 #168

Did you catch... ReRe Sep 2014 #172

I saw that. And immediately thought WTH. nt silvershadow Sep 2014 #269

+1. I am not sure big ones are safer anymore. nt GoneFishin Sep 2014 #197

Definitely get the red out Sep 2014 #227

I am whatever Bernie is. Autumn Sep 2014 #2

Second that. n/t pa28 Sep 2014 #49

Me three... nt Earth_First Sep 2014 #94

Same here MissDeeds Sep 2014 #123

me too glinda Sep 2014 #169

Me four. tblue Sep 2014 #178

Looking for another way to say "me, too!" SnowCritter Sep 2014 #217

Me freaking too! closeupready Sep 2014 #252

Me too! Love You Bernie! Rockyj Sep 2014 #290

Yup! nt Plucketeer Sep 2014 #296

Me too. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #298

Damn right, my dear Will. I'm with you. RUN, Bernie. RUN! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2014 #3

Yeah, but...but... kentuck Sep 2014 #4

lol whereisjustice Sep 2014 #16

Not if he runs as a Democrat. Please conside signing the petition. merrily Sep 2014 #33

Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #5

"he's a fucking piece of shit" WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #6

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The only time I've watched MTP tazkcmo Sep 2014 #17

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Oh well tazkcmo Sep 2014 #20

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Well then tazkcmo Sep 2014 #24

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Yup tazkcmo Sep 2014 #27

He very well may be crushed left is right Sep 2014 #189

Sen. Sanders probably DOES know he exists, as well as many more like him. Volaris Sep 2014 #119

And what still galls me is chuck todd's introduction: "in his FIRST appearance on Meet the Press..." calimary Sep 2014 #95

Me too! tazkcmo Sep 2014 #98

Well, I woulda brought in a cream pie with his name on it. Bernie has more class than that, calimary Sep 2014 #106

Which is exactly why he is *not* normally welcome on MTP. He can hand them their fannies. nt tblue37 Sep 2014 #157

This message was self-deleted by its author ReRe Sep 2014 #113

Sounds like an apt description of someone intentionally trying to win the White House for the GOP. tritsofme Sep 2014 #19

Wow tazkcmo Sep 2014 #23

He's not "trying to throw the election" he's trying to win it n/t arcane1 Sep 2014 #32

If he runs on a third party ticket, it would be intentional sabotage of the Democratic nominee tritsofme Sep 2014 #53

Dang! tazkcmo Sep 2014 #71

No, he wouldn't have my support. tritsofme Sep 2014 #84

He will not run 3rd Party tazkcmo Sep 2014 #89

He would have my support. I have already decided that if he runs, I will work for him unless JDPriestly Sep 2014 #176

Mine too. n/t whathehell Sep 2014 #213

The split the Dem vote stuff usually turns out to be bs. merrily Sep 2014 #222

That or dems could vote for him. He'd have mine. Ed Suspicious Sep 2014 #103

He's not doing that. Do you know nothing of the man and his history? HERVEPA Sep 2014 #166

And under that logic, anyone who chooses to run on the Democratic ticket would be committing JDPriestly Sep 2014 #175

"then he can fill his role as a harmless vanity candidate." sheesh - you don't have a clue how Douglas Carpenter Sep 2014 #231

lol, are you serious? tritsofme Sep 2014 #265

you just don't get it. Was Eugene McCarthy a harmeless vanity candidate? He only brought Douglas Carpenter Sep 2014 #281

I don't agree. tritsofme Sep 2014 #308

no one heard of Gene McCarthy until he forced a sitting President out of office and made opposition Douglas Carpenter Sep 2014 #311

Odd. That's the same question I had on another, MineralMan Sep 2014 #28

In fairness, he didn't also call him a "used car salesman" (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #58

I hear that blithe ignorance is good for insomnia. navarth Sep 2014 #82

Hmmmm...interesting question. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #90

Seems like the BOG can post just about anything and keep their privileges Doctor_J Sep 2014 #130

Hmmmm... sheshe2 Sep 2014 #160

He sure scrubbed up this thread, lol. 4 hides... morningfog Sep 2014 #148

He/she does this shit a lot-- I don't think it's a mask. Marr Sep 2014 #180

That behavior reminds me a troll, AllINeedIsCoffee. morningfog Sep 2014 #204

From my lurking days Feral Child Sep 2014 #258

Yup LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #207

Because rw haters of Dems are likelier to vote Dem than the Dem base? merrily Sep 2014 #224

That seems to be their logic, if you can call it that LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #233

There are a lot of memes on this board to justify the rightward drift merrily Sep 2014 #236

Pretzel logic is kinda strange. Rex Sep 2014 #158

He needs coffee. morningfog Sep 2014 #202

Seems to know where the delete button is. WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #218

I the logic is more Puglover Sep 2014 #235

Wonder how things are in New Jersey today? QC Sep 2014 #240

I see what you did there! Rex Sep 2014 #267

Either way. How fucking obvious can it be? nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2014 #242

Huh. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #286

I have another word for it. WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #289

Clueless HERVEPA Sep 2014 #7

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No matter what he does he deserves better than being called "a fucking piece of shit." Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2014 #14

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Hence the petition encouraging him to run as a Dem. merrily Sep 2014 #34

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He's got my vote and money...as I just told "Ready for Hillary" when I asked ScreamingMeemie Sep 2014 #8

A most excellent post! Thank you. 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #11

I'll take substance over labels any day. n/t winter is coming Sep 2014 #12

^^^This!!! A Thousand Times ... This!!!^^^ SomeGuyInEagan Sep 2014 #37

Absolutely! Nt a la izquierda Sep 2014 #100

Exactly! dflprincess Sep 2014 #132

But tazkcmo Sep 2014 #13

The person who dissed him for that was Barney Frank who had no room to talk. merrily Sep 2014 #36

Was actually tazkcmo Sep 2014 #41

Yes, and, per the link she posted, Barney Frank was the one who mentioned merrily Sep 2014 #45

I forgot tazkcmo Sep 2014 #51

If he runs as a Dem in the Dem primary, so what if he can't win? merrily Sep 2014 #57

I believe he can tazkcmo Sep 2014 #76

I hope you are correct. merrily Sep 2014 #112

Thanks for the link to the petition... ReRe Sep 2014 #102

I had a thread, too, with that link and a link to his facebook page, plus merrily Sep 2014 #116

K and R Faryn Balyncd Sep 2014 #26

He's not a democrat Evergreen Emerald Sep 2014 #29

He is an indie who caucuses with Dems and whom Schumer describes as an merrily Sep 2014 #38

He said he'll probably run as a Dem tazkcmo Sep 2014 #78

I hope Bernie does so! avaistheone1 Sep 2014 #177

Kendrick Meek was a Democrat opposed by the owners and most of the posters of DU TransitJohn Sep 2014 #140

Chafee, a Republican, over the dem as well. And Crist had barely gone Indie merrily Sep 2014 #221

I know, right? Such hypocrisy. The Dems will accept moderate Pubs, but Nay Sep 2014 #257

The Democratic Party will have a lot to say about whether he runs as a Dem. merrily Sep 2014 #264

Plenty close enough for government work. Schema Thing Sep 2014 #226

Arrrgh! NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #31

Encourage Bernie to run for President as a Democrat. merrily Sep 2014 #39

Yep! southerncrone Sep 2014 #40

So let me get this straight, if Bernie runs as an independent, and someone else is the democratic still_one Sep 2014 #42

More If's tazkcmo Sep 2014 #79

that wasn't my question still_one Sep 2014 #105

I love that he voted against the IWR. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #43

Pfffft tazkcmo Sep 2014 #80

me too heaven05 Sep 2014 #44

Encourage Bernie to run for Pres as a Dem merrily Sep 2014 #50

I see the same said of the sitting Democratic President of the United States. baldguy Sep 2014 #46

Aw, another pony post. What is that, number 42 million? merrily Sep 2014 #48

Pales in comparisson to the number of posts from "liberals" unfairly criticizing Obama. baldguy Sep 2014 #65

Hopefully they are not all the same exact thing over and over and over. merrily Sep 2014 #69

But, surly you agree that blaming the Pres for the actions of the previous regime baldguy Sep 2014 #131

Blaming Obama for his own administration, his own acts and omissions is very fair. merrily Sep 2014 #185

It's been refuted many times YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #152

I've seen many lame excuses and rationalizations trying to pass merrily Sep 2014 #184

I sure wish the central committee would send them some new talking points. QC Sep 2014 #208

Don't we all? Pony, not king, ZZZZZzzzzzz merrily Sep 2014 #219

He doesn't have a magic wand!!!1! QC Sep 2014 #237

And Dimson did? merrily Sep 2014 #238

Georgie, as much a dumbshit as he was and is, QC Sep 2014 #241

Yeah I am not sure that is what Obama was doing. merrily Sep 2014 #246

I'm with you on this. The president has made very "centrist" choices QC Sep 2014 #266

Good points. And Larry Summer on Clinton's economic team when Clinton merrily Sep 2014 #268

Yes, but just imagine Bernie in his swimsuit! QC Sep 2014 #270

Please tell me you just made that up. Please tell me no one merrily Sep 2014 #271

Not yet. Just give it time. n/t QC Sep 2014 #272

Whew! I can exhale. nt merrily Sep 2014 #274

What, you don't think he can just wave his magic wand YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #147

Stupid LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #209

Kiss every square inch of your ass, you say? Give it 24 business hours. Then I will. I swear. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #47

If he runs as Dem, there is no gamble and he said Sunday he is considering merrily Sep 2014 #52

I agree that would be the best. And if he runs (I), PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #55

It would be best. Please consider signing that petition. merrily Sep 2014 #59

Done. My parents just saw him at Fighting Bob Fest on Saturday. They were stoked. PeaceNikki Sep 2014 #63

Thank you. Sanders is good at stoking. merrily Sep 2014 #192

Or win. n/t tazkcmo Sep 2014 #81

Just don't see it Iamthetruth Sep 2014 #309

I hope he runs as well. onecaliberal Sep 2014 #54

He is a decent, hardworking, honest man. That's 840high Sep 2014 #56

Not just a yes , but a HELL YES. 99Forever Sep 2014 #60

I AGREE Skittles Sep 2014 #61

Thank you, Will. Run, Bernie, Run, indeed. Made a post about it too. I don't give ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2014 #62

In order to be nominated he has to run in primaries... Historic NY Sep 2014 #66

He could be called our common law grandfather. Half-Century Man Sep 2014 #67

Why is Bernie Sanders not a Democrat and Larry Summers is? Jack Rabbit Sep 2014 #68

Is a democratic-socialist anything like the democratic-farmer-labor party of MN? rurallib Sep 2014 #70

May I please... New Orleans Strong Sep 2014 #72

None. WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #230

He can run on his record BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #73

I LOVE Bernie!!! blondie58 Sep 2014 #74

K& rec @100 spanone Sep 2014 #75

+1000000 Veilex Sep 2014 #77

Cheers to you, Will! City Lights Sep 2014 #83

K&R ReRe Sep 2014 #85

So we are all in favor of another Ralph Nader, resulting in President Cruz? Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #86

That question will not be answered. His supporters believe he will run as a Democrat, but that is still_one Sep 2014 #107

Of course the vast majority will vote for the Democratic nominee, and just enough will vote for Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #118

Well, if you already know that's the case Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #288

Relax, Fred ReRe Sep 2014 #181

Yes, I want Jones back, Comrade. Orsino Sep 2014 #211

Ah, irrational Nader reference. Maedhros Sep 2014 #251

Saying something is irrational with any backup makes any comment irrelevant. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #263

Thank you! He has my vote, support and my time as a volunteer. Absolutely! 20score Sep 2014 #87

Bernie is what Bartlet Sep 2014 #88

.... YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #142

Abso-fucking-lutely! PoutrageFatigue Sep 2014 #91

Couldn't have said it better, Will Demeter Sep 2014 #92

Hear, hear! nt Earth_First Sep 2014 #93

He's going to have a rough road unless he runs on Obama's record ucrdem Sep 2014 #96

What are you talking about? radiclib Sep 2014 #110

He won't win without it. Neither will HRC. ucrdem Sep 2014 #117

Try getting any of those proposals through a Republican Congress YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #150

So you expect a Republican congress in 2017? radiclib Sep 2014 #276

PLUS ONE, a whole bunch! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #190

Bernie represents the people and he's not only an idealist but a pragmatist as well, $50 Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #97

OMG YES! LittleGirl Sep 2014 #99

Bernie, if you run, I will vote for you....... Kilgore Sep 2014 #101

K & R LovingA2andMI Sep 2014 #104

Fuck Yeah, Pitt! K&R! whatchamacallit Sep 2014 #108

If Bernie runs, I'll vote for him, regardless of the letter after his name.. mountain grammy Sep 2014 #109

President Cruz is hoping you'll do exactly that. n/t ColesCountyDem Sep 2014 #135

Oh please, spare me that vision. I'm not buying it. mountain grammy Sep 2014 #163

The older I get the harder it is to scare me. That little throw away Autumn Sep 2014 #201

Me too, Autumn! mountain grammy Sep 2014 #210

You just want President Palin!!!!!!!! QC Sep 2014 #291

oH NOES not Palin !!! I want President Reagan!!!! He's perfect. Autumn Sep 2014 #295

And Reagan was a transformative president, QC Sep 2014 #297

That's what some one told me but I figured since I was there Autumn Sep 2014 #303

The next Missouri "democratic" anointed gubernatorial in nominee is NOT a Democrat loyalsister Sep 2014 #111

Even sadder is that LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #212

Exactly. Pubs changing to Dems? Dems should toss them out the door, just Nay Sep 2014 #262

Sadly, it's nothing new loyalsister Sep 2014 #306

I could give a shit what party initial is after Bernie's name. JEB Sep 2014 #114

If he does, I'll register Democrat this time... Xyzse Sep 2014 #121

I hope he runs as a Democrat. The debates will be much more interesting. Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #122

We can talk about 'circling the wagons' AFTER Bernie eats Hillary alive during the primary debates OneAngryDemocrat Sep 2014 #124

Robin Hood!!! Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #125

with all due respect to the powers that be DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #126

No.surprise. elleng Sep 2014 #128

Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Sep 2014 #133

Yawn treestar Sep 2014 #134

Wow. neverforget Sep 2014 #141

It's easy to speak about your high-minded principles YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #144

Sen. Sanders has been walking and talking his "high-minded" principles since 1971. WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #154

+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #191

Having no principles got us into this predicament in the first place. neverforget Sep 2014 #156

What Congress? They are too busy going on vacations. Rex Sep 2014 #159

"the newest Messiah" NealK Sep 2014 #188

I'm on his side, too MissDeeds Sep 2014 #137

And he is not only Democrat but an old time Democrat. I will vote for him in the primary. I might jwirr Sep 2014 #138

Best. Post. Ever. nt silvershadow Sep 2014 #139

Bernie doesnt have a national appeal. DCBob Sep 2014 #143

he's a hell of a lot more of a Democrat than the Trojan Horse in the White House. Or either of the kath Sep 2014 #145

Introducing the new logical fallacy, courtesy of DU! YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #149

Go Bernie, Run! You Can Do No Wrong! YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #151

They do. WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #153

Perhaps that's because LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #214

He's what the Democrats ought to be. Indepatriot Sep 2014 #155

If I agree with you, do I get a reprieve from the ass kissing? rhett o rick Sep 2014 #161

Well.... technically he's not. Smarmie Doofus Sep 2014 #162

I support Bernie, but suspect that if he wins the White House, he'll face an army of obstructionist blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #164

I like fire Kalidurga Sep 2014 #165

Run Bernie, Run!! Strat54 Sep 2014 #167

Because of Bernie, I'm a Democratic Socialist too. knr nt Veganhealedme Sep 2014 #170

REC! SammyWinstonJack Sep 2014 #171

I hope he runs. gwheezie Sep 2014 #173

Wow. PBass Sep 2014 #174

No shit. Corporate stooges say Sanders isn't a Democrat without a twinge of shame. Marr Sep 2014 #179

EEEK! He's too liberal!! He can't win!! Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #182

Calm down there, Hillary. We already know how you feel about anyone else running. Ikonoklast Sep 2014 #220

Interesting responses.... democrank Sep 2014 #183

K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #187

He's a Democrat in principle so I will vote for him if given the chance. K&R nt snappyturtle Sep 2014 #193

I hope he runs marym625 Sep 2014 #194

Bernie!!! AzDar Sep 2014 #195

Run, Bernie, Run. And please stay out of small planes... magical thyme Sep 2014 #198

Basic math proves you wrong. riqster Sep 2014 #199

Pretty much my thoughts. Bernie is what a Democrat is SUPPOSED to be but... Triana Sep 2014 #200

If Bernie runs in the Democratic primary, Progressive dog Sep 2014 #203

Bernie is more a democrat than any who represents the DNC today. He would B Calm Sep 2014 #205

Ironic statement given the fact he's about the ONLY Democrat standing. NorthCarolina Sep 2014 #206

He is the closest to a viable candidate we will get Generic Other Sep 2014 #215

I think I love you. marym625 Sep 2014 #216

Bernie's a Democrat. Octafish Sep 2014 #223

I have never signed up either... freebrew Sep 2014 #225

course my answer would be PatrynXX Sep 2014 #228

knr Douglas Carpenter Sep 2014 #229

If Bernie runs, hifiguy Sep 2014 #232

Add every square in of my ass as well... raindaddy Sep 2014 #234

DURec leftstreet Sep 2014 #239

Ralph Nader, Part 2??? Help me on this. dsharp88 Sep 2014 #243

Only if he appeals to Democratic voters more the the Democratic candidate does. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #247

If he runs WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #249

You're a professional writer, Will, yet Heidi Sep 2014 #244

In my published work WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #248

I will pardon you Heidi Sep 2014 #250

I sincerely care about your coping mechanisms WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #255

Our tribe Heidi Sep 2014 #261

Oh, heck yeah. Totally. Zorra Sep 2014 #245

He damn well better run as a Democrat. . . DinahMoeHum Sep 2014 #253

Whaaargarbl. WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #256

Bernie Sanders is what we wish our democratic politicians were. fbc Sep 2014 #254

Thanks, Will...I agree 100%! n/t ms liberty Sep 2014 #259

FOUR HUNDRED ELEVEN RECS SO FAR? merrily Sep 2014 #275

It would appear Elizabeth Warren's FOM status is at an end LordGlenconner Sep 2014 #277

Thanks for the kick WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #278

Really? Really? I am guessing you are not a fan of progressive candidates. rhett o rick Sep 2014 #287

And maybe you have a persecution complex? LordGlenconner Sep 2014 #292

Wow, you got me there. And maybe you are a conservative posting on rhett o rick Sep 2014 #293

Here, Here.... Run, Bernie. Run! RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #280

418 Rec's, as of this writing Babel_17 Sep 2014 #282

Just noticed that - that's the most I've seen in a very long time. TBF Sep 2014 #283

I agree totally that he should run. lark Sep 2014 #284

+1 La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #305

Does your state have an open or closed presidential primary? PADemD Sep 2014 #285

Damn Good! Thespian2 Sep 2014 #294

Bernie is not a fake. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #299

I support Bernie with every square inch of my ass! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #300

Very interesting post Mr. Pitt. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #301

Don't ever stop speaking out, Will!!!! marble falls Sep 2014 #302

you're confusing Democrat with liberal. he is not a DEM but he is liberal. these are just facts La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #304

Paperwork aside, Bernie's much closer to being a democrat than Hillary. Indepatriot Sep 2014 #313

you too are apparently confused about party affiliation and ideology. La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #315

I'm looking forward to many more threads about Senator Sanders running for President Babel_17 Sep 2014 #307

Jury results: Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #310

damn, somebody is copy/pasting the same alert in every WillPitt thread on this topic. m-lekktor Sep 2014 #312

I am on Bernie's side. bigwillq Sep 2014 #314