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7. I know I'll be accused of Green Lanternism
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 01:51 PM
Sep 2014

But there was never a push for single payer. The administration negotiated it away before they even sat down with the intransigent opposition. I'll bring up a parallel situation: Right now, one of the hobgoblins occupying the conservative mind is repealing the 17th Amendment (direct popular election of Senators). They've put it in the Republican Party platforms of several states, including most recently Texas. Also right now, repealing the 17th Amendment has severely limited chances of passing. But the Republican Party continues to beat the drum, rally support among their voters, put it in state party platforms, and discuss it seriously among themselves.

The idea will probably go nowhere. Probably.

But if this hare-brained idea is going to be enacted, this is where the hard work gets done, and the day may come when we have to have a serious discussion about it. What if Democrats made a push for single payer the way Republicans are flogging repeal of the 17th Amendment? Which issue is more beneficial to the American people? Which issue, though, looks more likely to get serious consideration in the next five years?

Who as to "answer" the call for single payer? Does someone get support for it (by which I'm talking about votes and campaign contributions), or are they relegated to the nutjob pile by the popular media without the media's ever getting pushback from the people who would benefit from taking health care out of the realm of profit centers?

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M. Moore............... stewert Sep 2014 #1
not sure, used to be a fan but now he is reduced to doing this LOL snooper2 Sep 2014 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2014 #22
And think of what we might have accomplished if Barack Obama el_bryanto Sep 2014 #2
yep G_j Sep 2014 #4
Bernie Sanders: Single Payer Never Had A Chance Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #5
He could have put it on the table as an negotiating tactic el_bryanto Sep 2014 #6
Yea cause congress people cant count votes Egnever Sep 2014 #30
I know I'll be accused of Green Lanternism gratuitous Sep 2014 #7
While I agree with your thought process you must be aware that both Vermont and Bandit Sep 2014 #11
You may be accusex of being an Adult!-nt Anansi1171 Sep 2014 #37
while single payer did not have a chance questionseverything Sep 2014 #8
Nope. The public option didn't even make it out of committee Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #9
Here's some reality - Barack Obama is pro-Wall Street down to his bones. nt el_bryanto Sep 2014 #10
LOL Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #12
I responded up above to your links - but you deigned not to reply el_bryanto Sep 2014 #14
the house had passed a good bill with a public option questionseverything Sep 2014 #15
The final health care bill was indeed passed by reconciliation. merrily Sep 2014 #26
Well, Sanders is just a RW corporatist tool. baldguy Sep 2014 #21
I blame Obama for putting single payer option in the ACA! VT and soon CA will take advantage of it. freshwest Sep 2014 #24
Bingo. n/t QC Sep 2014 #20
And you actually think single payer would have passed? brush Sep 2014 #28
I think that even if it didn't pass it could have been put on the table el_bryanto Sep 2014 #34
Zero chance of passing equals zero negotiating power. nt brush Sep 2014 #39
+1 leftstreet Sep 2014 #32
He gets full credit, but 100 years from now nobody will remember the 2014 uninsured rate arcane1 Sep 2014 #13
Hopefully, in 100 yrs "uninsured" will be an alien concept to Americans. baldguy Sep 2014 #23
In 100 years? Bwahahaha! At the rate climate change is happening? nt valerief Sep 2014 #27
Nuclear winter tends to change the climate 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #31
I usually like Moore and can overlook some of his more obnoxious stuff LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #16
Why did your post remind me of this song? kentuck Sep 2014 #17
insurance is now mandatory. of course more people are insured Doctor_J Sep 2014 #18
+1 Scuba Sep 2014 #19
And rates are dropping. tridim Sep 2014 #29
So what? 75% of Americans were already insured leftstreet Sep 2014 #35
Yep leftstreet Sep 2014 #33
He'd reply he's 'bombing brown people now' maced666 Sep 2014 #25
I wish I also had a vacuous intent that prevents me from perceiving any one person beyond one stat LanternWaste Sep 2014 #36
There is no doubt that 100 years from now, MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #38
Never miss a chance do you madokie Sep 2014 #41
I rarely do miss a chance MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #45
Seems more like a weasel madokie Sep 2014 #47
MM will be remembered as a person who madokie Sep 2014 #40
Ahh, someone is jealous??? nt Logical Sep 2014 #43
Jealous madokie Sep 2014 #44
You forgot "Started another war!". Yea!!! nt Logical Sep 2014 #42
"Since the 90s"? How historic. Snort. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #46
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