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littlemissmartypants

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2. Thanks for your post, Octafish. Power and Control.

Tue Sep 16, 2014, 07:28 PM

Sep 2014

The cycle of abuse rears it's everywhere angry head. The effects are often deadly when subjugation leads to disregard for life.

Thanks again.

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Spanking? America's killed a million Iraqi kids over the last 24 years. [View all] Octafish Sep 2014 OP

I think we can walk and chew gum. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #1

Of course we can examine both situations, ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #4

Wow, a twofer! Wait Wut Sep 2014 #5

Agreed, I am not sure either problem has been totally overlooked. Just because there is lots of kid Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #82

Thanks for your post, Octafish. Power and Control. littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #2

You are most welcome, littlemissmartypants! War is Power. And Money. Octafish Sep 2014 #16

I'm sorry but this is just conflating shit that doesn't need to be conflated. cali Sep 2014 #3

I'm sorry, but that post isn't helping shit. DocMac Sep 2014 #14

It's a fucking slap in the face. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #45

Not a zero sum situation. MineralMan Sep 2014 #6

pithy ... GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #10

So who's making the money? Octafish Sep 2014 #31

Albright is scum. "We think the price was worth it" leftstreet Sep 2014 #7

She said that between invasions. Octafish Sep 2014 #17

Americans fight back when attacked, Progressive dog Sep 2014 #8

But when did Iraq attack us? Coventina Sep 2014 #9

i missed that too noiretextatique Sep 2014 #11

That was a "tell" if I've ever seen one. morningfog Sep 2014 #22

When did I say they did? Progressive dog Sep 2014 #58

Well, then I need clarification as to what you meant by your post. Coventina Sep 2014 #59

Are we now at war with Iraq? Progressive dog Sep 2014 #69

Iraq attacked us? cwydro Sep 2014 #12

When did Iraq or ISIS attack the US? morningfog Sep 2014 #21

When before 2014, did the US attack ISIS? Progressive dog Sep 2014 #57

No, I am asking you when Iraq attacked the US prior to our 2003 invasion. morningfog Sep 2014 #74

I didn't say Iraq attacked us, ISIS is not Iraq Progressive dog Sep 2014 #103

This thread is about 25 years of war in Iraq. morningfog Sep 2014 #104

The thread is about not "spanking " ISIS, Progressive dog Sep 2014 #106

There we go. IS did not attack the US. morningfog Sep 2014 #107

How many beheadings would they have to video for Progressive dog Sep 2014 #111

I am not so easily swayed by propaganda. morningfog Sep 2014 #113

Technically, even Afghanistan didn't attack us and any payback whereisjustice Sep 2014 #26

I'm curious as to why Progressive dog Sep 2014 #56

Because there was no military/strategic advantage of occupation given the history of whereisjustice Sep 2014 #84

So you believe nations (at least the USA) Progressive dog Sep 2014 #102

You don't have to agree, history has more than proven my assertions correct. whereisjustice Sep 2014 #109

So you believe history Progressive dog Sep 2014 #110

like in viet nam, korea, iraq? La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #76

Go back and read what I wrote, Progressive dog Sep 2014 #105

You did. La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #108

What Adrian Peterson did was horrific, but this is a million times more horriffic. Initech Sep 2014 #13

''He's a man we can do business with." Octafish Sep 2014 #19

And then there was Prescott Bush and his buddies hifiguy Sep 2014 #83

Maybe that's why America has a violence problem. Just sayin'. nt laundry_queen Sep 2014 #15

It's been decades. 24 years in Iraq. Vietnam was 20 years... Octafish Sep 2014 #20

I know. laundry_queen Sep 2014 #29

No kidding - TBF Sep 2014 #79

You can't vote it out... smiley Sep 2014 #18

Then both Parties subscribe to the same thing. Octafish Sep 2014 #25

the truth.... smiley Sep 2014 #34

Thanks, smiley! DU is a Truth Machine Octafish Sep 2014 #63

A toddler was beaten bloody with a tree branch by a professional football player. Iggo Sep 2014 #23

No. That's child abuse. People are arguing about corporal punishment. Octafish Sep 2014 #28

Yeah seriously, WTF are we still doing in Iraq? Rex Sep 2014 #24

Precisely the point: This is supposed to be a Democracy. Octafish Sep 2014 #27

So true, kinda like when 80% of the populace wants better gun control laws Rex Sep 2014 #32

The same thing we've been doing for over 30 years, protecting the Saudis Hippo_Tron Sep 2014 #30

Yes America is still the worlds Global Police Force. Rex Sep 2014 #33

I actually can get behind air strikes in Iraq, but intervening in Syria is ridiculous Hippo_Tron Sep 2014 #40

Just so I understand... pipi_k Sep 2014 #35

No. The point is the USA has killed a million kids no one talks about. Octafish Sep 2014 #37

So, if the tee vee people stop talking about the kids who are being beaten kcr Sep 2014 #42

Why can't both issues be covered? They SHOULD be of concern to the nation. Octafish Sep 2014 #52

I agree. They can both be covered, and they should. kcr Sep 2014 #53

I think that's probably pipi_k Sep 2014 #55

and further apparently treestar Sep 2014 #50

You're right of course rock Sep 2014 #36

Princeton... Octafish Sep 2014 #38

Sounds dead on rock Sep 2014 #39

It almost seems that an occasional ligitimate social issue JEB Sep 2014 #41

From the NFL to Federal Court, Domestic Violence is an epidemic. Octafish Sep 2014 #51

And on ignore you finally go. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #43

Bad idea. zappaman Sep 2014 #46

My own personal minder dude. Octafish Sep 2014 #48

uh oh zappaman Sep 2014 #54

Four years of your life monitoring me. Octafish Sep 2014 #60

Not sure how you intercepted that private comm zappaman Sep 2014 #64

Good riddance. Octafish Sep 2014 #49

Does your math AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #44

Is that a joke? Octafish Sep 2014 #47

Yes, that was so humane of us... Oilwellian Sep 2014 #68

K&R!! G_j Sep 2014 #61

Not trying to divert attention from spanking, but to the killing of a million innocent people. Octafish Sep 2014 #65

distractions distractions librechik Sep 2014 #62

I was surprised at both the focus and its size. Please see #65 above and this from the same below... Octafish Sep 2014 #66

vomit inducing, but unfortunately true. librechik Sep 2014 #73

durec Norm Guy Sep 2014 #67

Iraqi people had nothing to do with 9-11. They didn't even vote for CIA-installed Saddam Hussein. Octafish Sep 2014 #70

Thanks Norm Guy Sep 2014 #87

But but but malaise Sep 2014 #71

These people in the 'political class' are past cultural conceit... Octafish Sep 2014 #80

100% correct malaise Sep 2014 #85

Dead kids have a power to open eyes. Yet some spend years trying to shut your mouth. johnnyreb Sep 2014 #72

Funny you should mention that. Octafish Sep 2014 #77

what we do to our kids matter. what we do to other people's children also matter. La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #75

UN sanctions are not "the US killing a million kids" EX500rider Sep 2014 #78

That's what NSA spying on the UN was for: Right nice way to stack the deck. Octafish Sep 2014 #86

Nothing to do with attacking the US EX500rider Sep 2014 #88

In 1990, Iraq was given a green light to attack Kuwait by Baker per April Glaspie. Octafish Sep 2014 #92

Saying we have no opinion in a dispute over slant drilling is NOT a green light for war. EX500rider Sep 2014 #94

So why the need to lie America into war? Octafish Sep 2014 #95

I don't know why she lied but they DID invade Kuwait & Saudi Arabia... EX500rider Sep 2014 #97

You miss a key point: Iraq did not attack the United States. Octafish Sep 2014 #115

Didn't have to attack the US.. EX500rider Sep 2014 #119

Father Bush lied his miserable way into an Iraq war just like his dim son did. LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #122

So it was a lie that Iraq invaded Kuwait & Saudi Arabia? EX500rider Sep 2014 #123

Yes. LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #124

Glaspie saying we had no opinion in a matter concerning slant drilling.. EX500rider Sep 2014 #125

It was a green light to Saddam, remember that Rumsfeld and the PNACers were buds with Saddam LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #127

He took it as a green light...turned out to be a bad idea on his part.. EX500rider Sep 2014 #129

Jsus Christ. Learn to multitask. nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #81

Like the CIA and the Pentagon. They got wars goin' around the planet. Octafish Sep 2014 #96

Sad isn't it.. the other issue we don't talk about is the murder by our taxdollars. KoKo Sep 2014 #89

Student Debt Is Fascist Octafish Sep 2014 #90

nothing personal, its just policy reddread Sep 2014 #91

In 1991, Kuwait stayed in the Wall Street Warmonger column. Octafish Sep 2014 #93

Perhaps they're related. Trillo Sep 2014 #98

Absolutely. Octafish Sep 2014 #101

"America's government has got a violence problem." YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #99

It does go back a long ways. Octafish Sep 2014 #100

Thank you for all that, and more, Sir. bobthedrummer Sep 2014 #116

What's one little President when compared to a million kids? Octafish Sep 2014 #118

you forgot to add "slightly brown" kids Octafish. Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #112

Excellent points, Puzzledtraveller. What Pablo Casals said. Octafish Sep 2014 #114

That's beautiful, thank you. Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #120

Congratulations on your little one. truedelphi Sep 2014 #126

''The little brown ones.'' -- George Herber Walker Bush on his grandchildren Octafish Sep 2014 #117

It's a joke to so many Puzzledtraveller Sep 2014 #121

Spanking bad; killing children unforgivable. JEB Sep 2014 #128

That one got to me, JEB. Harold Pinter understood David's message... Octafish Sep 2014 #130

What a powerful advocate for the truth. JEB Sep 2014 #131

Thought I'd toss this your way. JEB Sep 2014 #132