How Not To Get The Best Possible Democratic Candidate For The White House!

[NanceGreggs]

171. The only "strawman" here, sabrina ...

... is the one you've raised in your OP.

"there is only ONE candidate being pushed on the people." Really? Who would that candidate be? I'm assuming you mean Hillary - so who is "pushing" her on the people, and how? I've seen endless posts on DU about Hillary being declared "inevitable", but the only references I can find to her inevitability are from articles written by political pundits, not by anyone in the Party.

You rail in your OP about "a whole lot of Democrats are not happy with Hillary as their only choice." Who said Hillary is the only choice? Has anyone in the Party stated that there will be no primaries in 2016, that the Party has decided that Hillary IS the nominee, and therefore no one will have a choice? If so, please provide links.

"Do we really want a candidate who has shown themselves to represent Corporate America over the People as the only choice we are given?"

Again, can you provide some factual basis behind this notion that Hillary (or anyone else, for that matter) will be the only choice Democrats are offered?

In truth, your OP makes no sense; you contradict yourself everywhere. You state "Then let them know what we DO want and this time let them know we mean it!, followed by "It makes no sense to show your hand at this point,", followed by, "Watch how they try to win over those they know they cannot take for granted!"

So what's your strategy here? Let "them" know (whoever "they" are, which you never clarify), but don't show your hand at this point (so people should let "them" know while not letting them know?), and then watch how "they" try to win over those they know they cannot take for granted!"

Well, how can you let "them" know what you want, without showing your hand as to what you want? And then how are "they" going to try and win over those who they don't know they can't take for granted, because those voters are not supposed to show their hand?

The mind boggles.

But let's get down to the nuts-'n'-bolts of what you're proposing here. You think Democrats should be "telling them NOW that if this is the only choice we have, we will not vote for her/him is a far better strategy in order to persuade them that they need to present a candidate people WANT if they want to win."

Who is "them"? If you are promoting the idea that Democrats should be telling "them" something, it would seem obvious that "they" should be identified. Exactly who should disgruntled Dems be sending their message to? You persist in the notion that there are nefarious powers-that-be within the Party who need to get this message - who are they? Can you provide names, email addresses or other contact information for those who want to let "them" know what's on their minds?

Exactly how do you propose to "let them know what we DO want and this time let them know we mean it"? Again, who is "them" - or should letters/emails simply be addressed to "To Whom It May Concern", and sent to -- well, sent to where?

"How about they try to get Bernie to run? How about we pressure them to do that?
How about we tell them 'it's either HIM or NO ONE!"

Could you provide a helpful sample letter/email explaining to "them" exactly how they should get Bernie to run, and how "they" should pressure him to do that, e.g. "Dear THEM - We demand that you run a non-member of the Democratic Party as the Democratic nominee for POTUS in 2016. It's either him or no one!" You can also add some pointers as to how Bernie should be "pressured" into doing the bidding of a Party he has chosen not to be a member of - and I'd be really interested to see what you propose in that regard. You could also dazzle "them" with the anecdotal evidence that you participate on a - cough - "Democratic website" where literally dozens upon dozens of (alleged) Democrats have said they will vote for him.

"It's certainly interesting and rather flattering I suppose that you took the trouble to write such a long post that is ALL ABOUT ME!"

Sorry for being the one to break it to you, but there is nothing "flattering" about being told you are totally out to lunch when it comes to the facts about the Democratic Party as a whole, and the fact that you (and your buds here on DU) are in no way representative of that Party.

"Your fatal mistake is assuming that Partisan Dems speak for the rest of the country." I never said that partisan Dems speak for the rest of the country (and that, by the way, is a classic example of a "strawman argument", FYI: implying that someone said what they didn't say, and then arguing against it).

As for the length of my reply - well, sabrina, when there's that much FAIL in one OP, it's difficult to respond to all of it in just a few short soundbytes.

I await your reply as to who "they" are - you know, the "they" who are giving Dems no choice in 2016 other than a candidate who has yet to announce she's running. I'm sure your buds here want to send "them" a piece of their mind - so identification of who "they" are would seem to be in order.