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cali

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23. sure. Shakespeare likely held many of the common views of his day

Wed Sep 17, 2014, 01:46 PM

Sep 2014

it's kind of anachronistic to label Shakespeare in that manner. Unlikely he knew any Jews as very few were in England during lifetime. Jews were expelled from England in the 13th century. In any case, Shylock is a multi-faceted character, and more than just a stock villain, but anyhoo...

Anti-semite is a term coined by one Wilhelm Marr in the 19th century to express antipathy toward jews. Although Arabs are obviously semites, the term word anti-semitic refers only to Jews. Check any dictionary.

Happy to educate you.

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Oops. Biden Apologizes for �Shylock� Comment [View all] cali Sep 2014 OP

I'm sure he probably meant "shyster" YarnAddict Sep 2014 #1

I see what you did there (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #3

:-) n/t YarnAddict Sep 2014 #4

Actually, I'm sure he didn't...nt joeybee12 Sep 2014 #7

Please explain why YarnAddict Sep 2014 #14

He has a history of inappropriate comments... joeybee12 Sep 2014 #16

Malapropisms, YarnAddict Sep 2014 #19

Anyone who has ever read Shakespeare knows how controversial the character of joeybee12 Sep 2014 #24

+1 cali Sep 2014 #30

Too far removed? They're practically the same word! mathematic Sep 2014 #44

Joe Biden is well-educated, he is well-versed in Shakespeare joeybee12 Sep 2014 #51

Then he should have said so in the apology still_one Sep 2014 #29

Yep, that was pretty bad. Good that he apologized (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #2

Yes. 840high Sep 2014 #49

Bankers are Shylocks? RobertEarl Sep 2014 #5

this is an unambiguous anti-semitic trope cali Sep 2014 #6

I never knew it was RobertEarl Sep 2014 #9

It hasn't suddenly become anti-semitic. It is a very old, well known cali Sep 2014 #10

I did not know fadedrose Sep 2014 #48

we can't all know everything. cali Sep 2014 #50

Well, try substituting another literary term in casual conversation frazzled Sep 2014 #20

Biden was talking about bankers RobertEarl Sep 2014 #28

OMG, are you trying to appear dense? frazzled Sep 2014 #36

or something else. n/t cali Sep 2014 #41

maybe not, but what you're doing is far more pernicious. cali Sep 2014 #38

Agreed, and the apology was necessary still_one Sep 2014 #32

How about "crooks"? frazzled Sep 2014 #8

Looked it up in dictionary RobertEarl Sep 2014 #11

this isn't about PC. Shylock references have been seen as anti-semitic since long before cali Sep 2014 #12

You can educate me even more RobertEarl Sep 2014 #15

sure. Shakespeare likely held many of the common views of his day cali Sep 2014 #23

OK RobertEarl Sep 2014 #33

I don't know that he had any experience with bankers. cali Sep 2014 #37

Edumacation? RobertEarl Sep 2014 #45

you're the one that should apologize. your nastiness in this thread has been cali Sep 2014 #46

When I first watched the play reorg Sep 2014 #53

Here's what I said: cali Sep 2014 #54

I'm glad we agree reorg Sep 2014 #55

I simply posted a snip from a site cali Sep 2014 #57

The term YarnAddict Sep 2014 #25

The dictionary also defines anti-Semitism frazzled Sep 2014 #31

I'm not going to hold my breath. cali Sep 2014 #34

It's a tough old world when we're called on our disrespect and intolerance LanternWaste Sep 2014 #22

I like PCwars RobertEarl Sep 2014 #40

right. words never hurt. and you insist on misusing the term pc in this context. cute. cali Sep 2014 #42

I posted this list of possibles in an earlier thread TexasProgresive Sep 2014 #18

love hornswogglers. never heard of bunco artists. no to gombeen men. cali Sep 2014 #26

P.D.s used to call the group that investigated scams the Bunco squad. TexasProgresive Sep 2014 #47

And that's how you apologize Scootaloo Sep 2014 #13

It is indeed a gracious apology and a good template. cali Sep 2014 #35

Jewish bankers seem to be a theme of anti-Semites. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #17

I have no problem giving him the benefit of the doubt. cali Sep 2014 #27

That is a pretty specific slip of the tongue. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #39

but he's not a republican and he a long and honorable record as anything but a bigot. cali Sep 2014 #43

Ouch Recursion Sep 2014 #21

good to see him admit he was wrong JI7 Sep 2014 #52

The GM did it again! bigwillq Sep 2014 #56

Interesting how the source of the misspeak draws variable reaction elias7 Sep 2014 #58

The "Orient" comment was simply an Occidental slip of the tongue. n/t betsuni Sep 2014 #60

To Cali: Behind the Aegis Sep 2014 #59