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Orrex

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40. Consensus

Thu Sep 18, 2014, 02:44 PM

Sep 2014

Well, the fact that corporal punishment isn't outlawed in 50 states despite DU's passionate rejection of it suggests that differences of opinion remain.

it is harder to have long term goals than short term

Harder to achieve, sure. And for good or ill, the constraints of reality can make it impractical or impossible to ignore the short term in deference to the long term.

Again, that's not a defense of corporal punishment but rather an acknowledgment of the circumstances that can make it seem necessary.

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Parents who use corporal punishment always seem to say the same thing. I don't buy it [View all] cali Sep 2014 OP

Did you see this from overnite? Corporal punishment is most suitable for younger kids HereSince1628 Sep 2014 #1

You're right that parents hit their children when they are angry. Nitram Sep 2014 #2

I would say that in some of my father's beatings of me he was angry... HereSince1628 Sep 2014 #5

Yes, both my parents were hyper-sensitive to "respect" Nitram Sep 2014 #13

I find the insistence that they hit their kids in a calm, cool manner even more horrifying. Brickbat Sep 2014 #3

that's a good point. cali Sep 2014 #6

Brickbat, I believe you make a case for all corporal punishment being counter-productive. Nitram Sep 2014 #14

K&R treestar Sep 2014 #4

if it works d_r Sep 2014 #7

I was told it DOES work because pain is an effective tool to teach. Coventina Sep 2014 #12

Pain is a very effective tool - for instilling fear and anger Nitram Sep 2014 #15

Agreed, but try telling that to those who defend hitting kids. Coventina Sep 2014 #17

its frustrating isn't it d_r Sep 2014 #18

"Punishment encourages sneaky behavior". Coventina Sep 2014 #24

If calmly and verbally correcting a child works, then why do parents have to keep doing it? Orrex Sep 2014 #28

the point is d_r Sep 2014 #30

Then why not just say that outright? Orrex Sep 2014 #35

it is harder d_r Sep 2014 #37

Consensus Orrex Sep 2014 #40

There is a parallel discussion in dog training KurtNYC Sep 2014 #8

Exxcellent observations, Kurt. Nitram Sep 2014 #16

I was so glad pipi_k Sep 2014 #20

Thank you for bringing up dog training. Mr.Bill Sep 2014 #23

yup yup. i still hear the old koehler shit. mopinko Sep 2014 #25

It's a lazy way to parent, imho. OneGrassRoot Sep 2014 #9

My mom was a rage-a-holic when we were growing up - we were ALWAYS bullwinkle428 Sep 2014 #10

I don't hit my kids Bettie Sep 2014 #11

HI Bettie strawberries Sep 2014 #19

Yes, are are products of our enviornment Bettie Sep 2014 #22

Yes, I got tired of yelling Califa Sep 2014 #27

I was paddled when I was a child... Whiskeytide Sep 2014 #21

You see, this is what confuses me about the whole discussion.... Moonwalk Sep 2014 #33

That was actually my point. Whiskeytide Sep 2014 #38

"intense, solitary, sessions of self-reflection" cali Sep 2014 #34

You make some very good points... Whiskeytide Sep 2014 #41

So, let's go over this without the paddling and see what we get.... Moonwalk Sep 2014 #42

I didn't steal the comic books... Whiskeytide Sep 2014 #43

i VERY RARELY ever hit any of my kids. mopinko Sep 2014 #26

If Adrian Peterson spanked his kid.. KinMd Sep 2014 #29

I'm talking about spanking, "whuppin'", switching, paddling cali Sep 2014 #31

Violence is ALWAYS failure, period. TheSarcastinator Sep 2014 #32

Yes, What exactly is different between bullying and corporal punishment HereSince1628 Sep 2014 #36

I find it intresting the number of corperal punishment recipiants later say that they... Lancero Sep 2014 #39