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ScottishDee

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84. They have

Fri Sep 19, 2014, 10:37 AM

Sep 2014

People who supported YES I think are accepting the will of the people. That does not mean the debate should be shut down nor does it mean we have to like it. Even though there is a sole Tory MP (2% of the total) in Scotland, we are lumbered with a Conservative government (the Lib Dems seem to almost say yes to anything Tory) that represents none of the progressive nature of Scottish politics imo.

Plus, are you telling me this is not the kind of reaction you get to Republican electoral victories? and that Democrats would just accept it?

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GOD DAMN IT!!!!! [View all] sibelian Sep 2014 OP

I know, me too. nt NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #1

If anyone ever mentions the phrase "Scotland the Brave" to me ever again sibelian Sep 2014 #81

It's only the beginning pinboy3niner Sep 2014 #2

.... hmf. sibelian Sep 2014 #16

How many times have we been here before? Electric Monk Sep 2014 #3

ANOTHER 15 fucking years will go by, sibelian Sep 2014 #12

I always love these completely informative posts. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #4

I think he's upset about the Scotland independence vote Art_from_Ark Sep 2014 #6

Ahh.....well...... A HERETIC I AM Sep 2014 #7

Nice. truebluegreen Sep 2014 #23

I thought it was gonna be a Chris Hardwick tribute thread. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #18

I'M PEEVED ABOUT MY STODGY, UNIMAGINATIVE FELLOW SCOTS. sibelian Sep 2014 #9

You've come a long way. Give it time. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #56

Yeah, after the fucking Barnett formula's ripped up and Westminster stops pussy-footing sibelian Sep 2014 #57

I am happy that my fellow Scots hfojvt Sep 2014 #67

Buy 'em books, send them to school and what do they do? dixiegrrrrl Sep 2014 #91

Right? liberal N proud Sep 2014 #76

I am so very sorry.... Justitia Sep 2014 #5

... sibelian Sep 2014 #11

I hope you practice saying "I told you soooo!" with great relish. nt Justitia Sep 2014 #13

I will. But I don't WANT TOOOO!!! sibelian Sep 2014 #15

Neither will the Tory government Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #17

AAARGH! Milliband!!!!! sibelian Sep 2014 #19

Alex Salmond - is that you? n/t pkdu Sep 2014 #8

! sibelian Sep 2014 #10

Yeah!!!!! n/t Mugu Sep 2014 #14

It was probably the letters everybody in Scotland got from their bosses right before polling day Ken Burch Sep 2014 #20

Did they really do that? n/t ReRe Sep 2014 #27

Well, there a lot of reports out there about similar goings-on Denzil_DC Sep 2014 #68

It was actually probably the fact that "yes" never had majority support. Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #29

There must be a few examples of such letters scanned and posted on the internet, Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #87

What Company "counted" the votes? Is there any mechanism for independent verification; do we blindly blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #21

All the polls except for one outlier had "no" ahead by a reasonable margin Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #22

There's no company that counts the vote. Denzil_DC Sep 2014 #30

Sorry... truebluegreen Sep 2014 #24

Thank you... sibelian Sep 2014 #50

I'm sorry sibelian. lovemydog Sep 2014 #25

Thank you, lovemydog. sibelian Sep 2014 #52

Trying to make it real compared to what? IkeRepublican Sep 2014 #26

It's going to be okay JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #28

It's going to be interesting, for a variety of reasons. Denzil_DC Sep 2014 #31

And Alex Salmond's constituency voted even more decisively for "no" (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #32

Did Salmond make last-minute promises for blatant electoral gain? Denzil_DC Sep 2014 #34

Try last-minute threats. Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #37

And such threats and conniving and calling in of favors haven't happened from the No side? Denzil_DC Sep 2014 #39

I don't see standing for the United Kingdom to remain united as "standing with the Tories". Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #42

Fuck sake, spider. We would NEVER have lived under a Tory government again. sibelian Sep 2014 #46

Don't fret, Sibelian Denzil_DC Sep 2014 #53

And meanwhile here in Wales we would've been saddled with them for the foreseeable Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #62

Fine, Mr What about ME sibelian Sep 2014 #66

And meanwhile control of welfare and tax will be among further devolved powers... Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #69

What, you know for sure what this "settlement" will consist of? Denzil_DC Sep 2014 #70

Yeah and invisibility, superstrength and telekinesis. sibelian Sep 2014 #77

Accepting the Tory framing for the debate will have long-term consequences. Denzil_DC Sep 2014 #47

I'm so dispirited. sibelian Sep 2014 #44

So is someone I work with JustAnotherGen Sep 2014 #65

Losing hope... ScottishDee Sep 2014 #72

Let me be the first to say ... Denzil_DC Sep 2014 #73

Thanks! ScottishDee Sep 2014 #80

Yeah. sibelian Sep 2014 #85

You did scare the malaise Sep 2014 #33

The Quebec referendum in 1995 was 49.4% "yes" to 50.6 "no". Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #38

Good point malaise Sep 2014 #40

Forecast to run out in 30 years or so Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #43

The oil won't be enough next time. The middle class vote needs some kind of economic carrot. sibelian Sep 2014 #45

For my sources the Edinburgh vote malaise Sep 2014 #48

Yeah. I live in Edinburgh. sibelian Sep 2014 #49

I feel your pain malaise Sep 2014 #51

Decisively! Denzil_DC Sep 2014 #55

As expected malaise Sep 2014 #59

There won't be enough oil, next time, you mean. Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #63

Hope and change. joshcryer Sep 2014 #35

At least it's put Frankie Boyle in a good mood Bosonic Sep 2014 #36

Sometimes democracy doesnt get it right. Rhinodawg Sep 2014 #41

The "NO" voters will get buyers' remorse CJCRANE Sep 2014 #54

... yes. sibelian Sep 2014 #58

Just see it as a stepping stone. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #64

Damn. My condolences. scarletwoman Sep 2014 #60

Sorry sibelian. :-( n/t seaglass Sep 2014 #61

Aye, me too. sibelian Sep 2014 #79

I imagine you've seen this sibelian or could have predicted it? seaglass Sep 2014 #90

I hadn;t seen it, but could have predictd most of it, yes. sibelian Sep 2014 #94

I'm very sorry Puglover Sep 2014 #71

If it's any consolation I was rooting for your side davidpdx Sep 2014 #74

The people have spoken. maced666 Sep 2014 #75

Pf! As if. We'd never have heard the end of it. sibelian Sep 2014 #78

They have ScottishDee Sep 2014 #84

Damn, I'm sorry, sibelian. woo me with science Sep 2014 #82

I'm seriously sulking. Damn you, Edinburgh! My beautiful home city is a big fearty! sibelian Sep 2014 #96

Oh you're still here. L0oniX Sep 2014 #83

... sibelian Sep 2014 #86

sorry ...thought the sarc tag wasn't needed. L0oniX Sep 2014 #88

Ach! sibelian Sep 2014 #95

Damn Scots! NuclearDem Sep 2014 #89

Yes! they did! I AM Groundskeeper Willie!!!! sibelian Sep 2014 #92

Sorry. Cleita Sep 2014 #93