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In reply to the discussion: Is Obama Lying Us Into Another War In The Middle East For Oil? [View all]Maedhros
(10,007 posts)46. Indeed, Obama is not using the specter of a Mushroom Cloud, and is not claiming WMD
(other than the last time he tried to take action in Syria based upon chemical attacks later proven to be a false-flag operation by Turkey).
No, those were used by the last guy. This time, they have all new fearmongering rhetoric:
(From here: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/08/lesson-americans-refuse-learn-war/)
CNN, 9/8/14: Americans are increasingly concerned that ISIS represents a direct terror threat, fearful that ISIS agents are living in the United States, according to a new CNN/ORC International poll. Most now support military action against the terrorist group.
Ive long considered this September, 2003 Washington Post poll to be one the most extraordinary facts about the post-9/11 era. It found that almost 2 years after 9/11, and six months after the invasion of Iraq nearly seven in 10 Americans believe it is likely that ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the Sept. 11 attacks . . . . A majority of Democrats, Republicans and independents believe its likely Saddam was involved.

Is it even possible to imagine more potent evidence of systemic media failure than that (or systemic success, depending on what you think the medias goal is)? But in terms of crazed irrationality, how far away from that false belief is the current fear on the part of Americans that there are ISIS sleeper cells living in the United States?

Is it even possible to imagine more potent evidence of systemic media failure than that (or systemic success, depending on what you think the medias goal is)? But in terms of crazed irrationality, how far away from that false belief is the current fear on the part of Americans that there are ISIS sleeper cells living in the United States?
In case youre wondering how so many Americans have been led to embrace such fear-mongering tripe, consider the statement last week of Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida:
This is a terrorist group the likes of which we havent seen before, and we better stop them now. It ought to be pretty clear when they start cutting off the heads of journalists and say theyre going to fly the black flag of ISIS over the White House that ISIS is a clear and present danger.
Theyre a clear and present danger because they threatened to fly the black flag of ISIS over the White House. Its hard to believe the fear-mongering is anything but deliberate.
This is a terrorist group the likes of which we havent seen before, and we better stop them now. It ought to be pretty clear when they start cutting off the heads of journalists and say theyre going to fly the black flag of ISIS over the White House that ISIS is a clear and present danger.
Theyre a clear and present danger because they threatened to fly the black flag of ISIS over the White House. Its hard to believe the fear-mongering is anything but deliberate.
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Obama also taking hits for NOT WANTING to go to war. Entire media is in disconnect mode.
blm
Sep 2014
#1
I read this here in an article her last week.. and apparently its supposed to be "common knowledge"
glowing
Sep 2014
#87
"no organization" -- this is changing. Take a look. Peace is possible. Not only that
Voice for Peace
Sep 2014
#67
We are the problem, not the solution in Iraq. How many years of failure will it take for war
grahamhgreen
Sep 2014
#6
Evidence, beyond a blog source, that we knowingly equipped and trained ISIS.
TwilightGardener
Sep 2014
#8
I have seen it posited many times here that we intentionally equipped and trained
TwilightGardener
Sep 2014
#15
Iraqi generals knowingly abandoned equipment to ISIS. Some were prosecuted. Need a link?
grahamhgreen
Sep 2014
#53
So, you're saying we should continue Bush's war without end for political gain?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Sep 2014
#7
What does enforcing international laws, waging law enforcement look like. eom
1StrongBlackMan
Sep 2014
#81
Obama hasn't said ISIS poses a threat to the US. It poses a threat to the world
berni_mccoy
Sep 2014
#45
Some of us have integrity, and abhor the horror and suffering of war even when it's a Democrat
Maedhros
Sep 2014
#47
Obama has done more to 'help' the Iraq gov. & the ME stand on their own- than a trillion dollars of
Sunlei
Sep 2014
#30
Yes. Pretending ISIS is not Islamic, pretending the Saudis are trustworthy allies.
Dems to Win
Sep 2014
#41
KKK well represents Christianity as practiced in the Americas for hundreds of years
Dems to Win
Sep 2014
#65
Indeed, Obama is not using the specter of a Mushroom Cloud, and is not claiming WMD
Maedhros
Sep 2014
#46