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Ken Burch

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20. So they're stuck in the UK and now stuck with Thatcherism as well.

Reply to Donald Ian Rankin (Reply #19)

Fri Sep 19, 2014, 06:49 PM

Sep 2014

And stuck with the Bomb and the slow death of the NHS and globalization and neoliberalism and the lot.

How is it better that they no longer have any chance of creating much of an alternative?

Labour is still pretty much Blairite, so voting for them doesn't really change anything, and the LibDems have now become simply the moderate wing of the Tories.

Yes, Donald, there were practical questions, but this was a chance to strike a blow against the ugliness.

I hope it sort of works out for them, but it's hard to avoid the conclusion that the Scots will be, once again, "bought and sold for English gold".

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There Are Many Considerations For Scottish Independence... And There Is Something Truly Exhilarating [View all] WillyT Sep 2014 OP

Turnout was significantly lower at the last general election (between 50-60%). Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #1

And That's Part Of My Point... WillyT Sep 2014 #2

So, if Scotland breaks off... SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2014 #3

Oh... I'm Sure They'd Give Him A Nice Slice Of England. WillyT Sep 2014 #5

The Queen will still be queen of Scotland. The vote isn't to become a republic. Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #8

He'd still have held the title. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #28

The Scottish people have been given something worth going to vote over Scootaloo Sep 2014 #4

BINGO !!! WillyT Sep 2014 #6

That's certainly the meme the right wing wants. joshcryer Sep 2014 #10

one tried to compare it to occupy, Tories could claim Scotland chose them now JI7 Sep 2014 #13

turning out to vote no it appears. maced666 Sep 2014 #7

By 60 to 40 in early returns pscot Sep 2014 #9

That is true. hope the win for the "No"doesn't demoralize people too much. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #11

Fear Beats Hope Here Too... WillyT Sep 2014 #12

Yeah...we all know that. n/t. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #14

well, not the way others see it. maced666 Sep 2014 #15

This isn't about "my revolution vision". Nothing here ever has been. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #18

That's making a pretty broad assumption. MineralMan Sep 2014 #16

All very smug, all very simple. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #21

What elections mean is that people are elected and MineralMan Sep 2014 #24

Obviously I agree with GOTV and all the rest. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #27

Dismissive? Not at all. There was an election in Scotland, MineralMan Sep 2014 #29

I didn't say stupid or uninformed-I said scared. Difference there. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #30

I know what you said. I said that I'm not all that sure MineralMan Sep 2014 #31

Or maybe the will of the Scottish people won out? randome Sep 2014 #17

I'm afraid I think your rhetoric is very silly. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2014 #19

So they're stuck in the UK and now stuck with Thatcherism as well. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #20

Oh... I'm A Very Silly Person... Granted... WillyT Sep 2014 #26

I really didn't have an opinion one way or another ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #22

Scotland doesn't really a tradition of the "physical force party"(as the Irish do) Ken Burch Sep 2014 #23

There were cheers in Charleston in 1860. rug Sep 2014 #25