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92. It is imperative that Guy is found innocent.

Sat Sep 20, 2014, 09:51 AM

Sep 2014

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Otherwise, the ramifications to the rest of us will be devastating. It means that the powers that be can decide who gets to defend their castle, and who does not.

In the wake of the Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown incidents, can you see a world where people of white persuasion can shoot any person of brown skin, anywhere, based on police protocol and Stand your Ground; and brown skinned citizens cannot even defend themselves in their own home? That's the message a guilty verdict will bring.

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Man Shoots at Intruders, Turns Out it was a No-Knock Raid. Now He Faces the Death Penalty [View all] KamaAina Sep 2014 OP

Oh fuck, it's Texas BuelahWitch Sep 2014 #1

Hey, I only live in Texas for Ruben's Homemade Tamales in San Antonio. Rozlee Sep 2014 #61

Come to the Bay Area KamaAina Sep 2014 #65

OMG! I have had those... yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #70

Texas and California have always been frenemies over Mexican food. Rozlee Sep 2014 #76

Tamales Lilianas in East LA DBoon Sep 2014 #101

You can live in WA too marlakay Sep 2014 #106

Sadly because he was SWB, LibertyLover Sep 2014 #85

The picture wasn't neccessary. The decision to prosecute identified a Non-White citizen. nt TheBlackAdder Sep 2014 #104

In a similar Texas case, the homeowner/shooter/cop killer was not indicted. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #2

Even your own property is not sacred for African-Americans malaise Sep 2014 #12

Sad situation.... Zeteticus Sep 2014 #25

Clearly, another marijuana-related death. Damansarajaya Sep 2014 #63

Public Trials billhicks76 Sep 2014 #84

Isnt this the same? hughee99 Sep 2014 #74

Apples to Apples and this person DID have drugs, the man wont walk cause he's black... uponit7771 Sep 2014 #82

Not Similar at ALL: In that case the homeowner was WHITE SorellaLaBefana Sep 2014 #91

Hee hee - he said "peace officer" Elmer S. E. Dump Sep 2014 #96

Gosh I thought Texas was a stand your ground State. gordianot Sep 2014 #3

You mean a Stand Your Ground If You Are White state AZ Progressive Sep 2014 #24

It's pretty clear that that's what they really mean! FiveGoodMen Sep 2014 #54

Great....a new acronym It's A Stand Your Ground If You Are White State. I.A.S.Y.G.I.Y.A.W.S.! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #78

In spite of living in Texas you do not get to stand your ground. gordianot Sep 2014 #4

But Texans have a right to use lethal force to protect property. TexasProgresive Sep 2014 #16

Lethal force to protect property can only be used at the nighttime while on the property. Dustlawyer Sep 2014 #23

And while white. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #33

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2014 #81

Can you cite the law, please? TexasProgresive Sep 2014 #39

I don't have the statute in front of me but you can Google it. Self defense of immediate serious Dustlawyer Sep 2014 #52

In any case this happened at 5:30AM TexasProgresive Sep 2014 #53

Evidently the nighttime requirement has been dropped. I was quoting the basics from memory Dustlawyer Sep 2014 #69

There's an exception for persons engaged in unlawful activity. Also, there's a cop provision. Shrike47 Sep 2014 #93

My question is: in the wee hours of the night when a person is awoken by a break in TexasProgresive Sep 2014 #97

Sounds like a "good shoot" to me pscot Sep 2014 #5

This happens all the time, often for drugs, and often on faulty evidence. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #6

Why would they want to do a no knock raid in the middle of the night? Maraya1969 Sep 2014 #7

Besides ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #18

That really wouldn't help if the toilet tank was already full. iscooterliberally Sep 2014 #29

You'd only get one flush, and it wouldnt be a full flush either. 7962 Sep 2014 #32

It would prevent more than one flush, though. eom 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #35

You can shut off the sewer too. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2014 #50

Why would they no-knock raid someone for minor drug possession? killbotfactory Sep 2014 #42

because he's........black? heaven05 Sep 2014 #88

Hey! They might flush Feral Child Sep 2014 #46

JIC I wasn't clear Feral Child Sep 2014 #107

If I am on that jury he walks! nt Logical Sep 2014 #8

Yup! nt avebury Sep 2014 #15

I'd vote for him to walk, too. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #37

Perfect time to use jury nullification in this case! The whole community should talk about this! cascadiance Sep 2014 #77

Time to start a petition at Care2. Milliesmom Sep 2014 #9

This was entirely predictable. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #10

YEP dembotoz Sep 2014 #13

If Zimmerman was set free, this guy should be free with no problems. "Stand Your Ground?" kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #11

+1 Enthusiast Sep 2014 #59

"The officers were looking for drugs, yet none were found in the home." valerief Sep 2014 #14

True. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #26

oh god toby jo Sep 2014 #17

80,000 SWAT raids a year Man from Pickens Sep 2014 #19

Right on! Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #38

No-knock raids should be illegal LittleBlue Sep 2014 #20

Totally. 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #21

My cop "friend" says they DO announce, but at the same time they hit the door. I dont buy it. 7962 Sep 2014 #30

They didn't announce for this poor kid. iscooterliberally Sep 2014 #36

I have never seen that web site before lunasun Sep 2014 #72

it is a war of american citizens noiretextatique Sep 2014 #95

Neighbors claim they did not identify themselves? yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #103

It was a condo, and some of the neighbors where actually outside when it all started. iscooterliberally Sep 2014 #109

That's like turning on your blinker only when you've already started changing lanes. winter is coming Sep 2014 #49

Sort of like this incident... xocet Sep 2014 #79

I agree, and the controlled substances act needs to go. The DEA too. n/t iscooterliberally Sep 2014 #31

Couldn't agree more. malthaussen Sep 2014 #41

As far as I am concerned they are illegal. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #56

WTF? SoapBox Sep 2014 #22

Conservatives: "Self-defense is only for white conservatives defending against crimes by minorities" bluestateguy Sep 2014 #27

Even if their only "crime" is having the wrong skin color. nt tblue37 Sep 2014 #48

Coming in thru a WINDOW?? Anyone would suspect a burglar. 7962 Sep 2014 #28

Agreed , my first thought is he probably thought someone was breaking in. cstanleytech Sep 2014 #73

if this goes bad in court, sounds like Presidential Pardon material for sure tomm2thumbs Sep 2014 #34

The president can't pardon people convicted in state court. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #60

Hopefully Separation Sep 2014 #40

When conservative extremes collide: armed citizens vs militarized police n/t Matrosov Sep 2014 #43

You are only permitted to stand your ground onecaliberal Sep 2014 #44

Figures it's Texas. Hulk Sep 2014 #45

Something good happened in Texas today KamaAina Sep 2014 #47

you should have just posted the picture first JI7 Sep 2014 #51

Actually the picture wasn't necessary. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #55

the picture explains why he is being charged JI7 Sep 2014 #58

I understand. My point is that we could have guessed w/o the picture. rhett o rick Sep 2014 #67

Reminds me of this... FiveGoodMen Sep 2014 #57

I really liked that show. It was underappreciated and should have been around longer. corkhead Sep 2014 #86

Yeah, it was good. FiveGoodMen Sep 2014 #90

I'm shocked the guy's alive! BobbyBoring Sep 2014 #62

Police are special people, they don't live by the same rules serfs live by. Rex Sep 2014 #64

Do they record these raids in Texas? If so, who would have the video? Could the defense see it? n/t xocet Sep 2014 #80

The cops are required to share with the defense. christx30 Sep 2014 #89

Something similar almost happened in MN: no-knock raid, homeowner with a shotgun NickB79 Sep 2014 #66

This is SOP GETPLANING Sep 2014 #68

I hope the SPLC and the ACLU jen63 Sep 2014 #71

Where is the NRA? DBoon Sep 2014 #102

You would think. jen63 Sep 2014 #105

Sooooo fucking sick of The War on (Some People with Some) Drugs. kath Sep 2014 #75

Cops make up the "rules" as they go. The homeowners were within their right to shoot these intruders blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #83

Texas, it figures heaven05 Sep 2014 #87

It is imperative that Guy is found innocent. Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #92

you mean Guy...Dinwiddie was the cop who was killed eom noiretextatique Sep 2014 #98

Sorry! Thanks for the correction. Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #100

Breathing while black Elmer S. E. Dump Sep 2014 #94

I hope real justice prevails, PumpkinAle Sep 2014 #99

Well, obviously the guy belongs in jail. krispos42 Sep 2014 #108