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yeoman6987

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103. Neighbors claim they did not identify themselves?

Sat Sep 20, 2014, 12:31 PM

Sep 2014

How would they know? If my neighbor was getting a visit from swat, I would have absolutely no idea if they identified themselves or not. Something doesn't add up on that at all.

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Man Shoots at Intruders, Turns Out it was a No-Knock Raid. Now He Faces the Death Penalty [View all] KamaAina Sep 2014 OP

Oh fuck, it's Texas BuelahWitch Sep 2014 #1

Hey, I only live in Texas for Ruben's Homemade Tamales in San Antonio. Rozlee Sep 2014 #61

Come to the Bay Area KamaAina Sep 2014 #65

OMG! I have had those... yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #70

Texas and California have always been frenemies over Mexican food. Rozlee Sep 2014 #76

Tamales Lilianas in East LA DBoon Sep 2014 #101

You can live in WA too marlakay Sep 2014 #106

Sadly because he was SWB, LibertyLover Sep 2014 #85

The picture wasn't neccessary. The decision to prosecute identified a Non-White citizen. nt TheBlackAdder Sep 2014 #104

In a similar Texas case, the homeowner/shooter/cop killer was not indicted. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #2

Even your own property is not sacred for African-Americans malaise Sep 2014 #12

Sad situation.... Zeteticus Sep 2014 #25

Clearly, another marijuana-related death. Damansarajaya Sep 2014 #63

Public Trials billhicks76 Sep 2014 #84

Isnt this the same? hughee99 Sep 2014 #74

Apples to Apples and this person DID have drugs, the man wont walk cause he's black... uponit7771 Sep 2014 #82

Not Similar at ALL: In that case the homeowner was WHITE SorellaLaBefana Sep 2014 #91

Hee hee - he said "peace officer" Elmer S. E. Dump Sep 2014 #96

Gosh I thought Texas was a stand your ground State. gordianot Sep 2014 #3

You mean a Stand Your Ground If You Are White state AZ Progressive Sep 2014 #24

It's pretty clear that that's what they really mean! FiveGoodMen Sep 2014 #54

Great....a new acronym It's A Stand Your Ground If You Are White State. I.A.S.Y.G.I.Y.A.W.S.! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #78

In spite of living in Texas you do not get to stand your ground. gordianot Sep 2014 #4

But Texans have a right to use lethal force to protect property. TexasProgresive Sep 2014 #16

Lethal force to protect property can only be used at the nighttime while on the property. Dustlawyer Sep 2014 #23

And while white. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #33

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2014 #81

Can you cite the law, please? TexasProgresive Sep 2014 #39

I don't have the statute in front of me but you can Google it. Self defense of immediate serious Dustlawyer Sep 2014 #52

In any case this happened at 5:30AM TexasProgresive Sep 2014 #53

Evidently the nighttime requirement has been dropped. I was quoting the basics from memory Dustlawyer Sep 2014 #69

There's an exception for persons engaged in unlawful activity. Also, there's a cop provision. Shrike47 Sep 2014 #93

My question is: in the wee hours of the night when a person is awoken by a break in TexasProgresive Sep 2014 #97

Sounds like a "good shoot" to me pscot Sep 2014 #5

This happens all the time, often for drugs, and often on faulty evidence. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #6

Why would they want to do a no knock raid in the middle of the night? Maraya1969 Sep 2014 #7

Besides ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #18

That really wouldn't help if the toilet tank was already full. iscooterliberally Sep 2014 #29

You'd only get one flush, and it wouldnt be a full flush either. 7962 Sep 2014 #32

It would prevent more than one flush, though. eom 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #35

You can shut off the sewer too. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2014 #50

Why would they no-knock raid someone for minor drug possession? killbotfactory Sep 2014 #42

because he's........black? heaven05 Sep 2014 #88

Hey! They might flush Feral Child Sep 2014 #46

JIC I wasn't clear Feral Child Sep 2014 #107

If I am on that jury he walks! nt Logical Sep 2014 #8

Yup! nt avebury Sep 2014 #15

I'd vote for him to walk, too. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #37

Perfect time to use jury nullification in this case! The whole community should talk about this! cascadiance Sep 2014 #77

Time to start a petition at Care2. Milliesmom Sep 2014 #9

This was entirely predictable. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #10

YEP dembotoz Sep 2014 #13

If Zimmerman was set free, this guy should be free with no problems. "Stand Your Ground?" kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #11

+1 Enthusiast Sep 2014 #59

"The officers were looking for drugs, yet none were found in the home." valerief Sep 2014 #14

True. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #26

oh god toby jo Sep 2014 #17

80,000 SWAT raids a year Man from Pickens Sep 2014 #19

Right on! Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #38

No-knock raids should be illegal LittleBlue Sep 2014 #20

Totally. 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #21

My cop "friend" says they DO announce, but at the same time they hit the door. I dont buy it. 7962 Sep 2014 #30

They didn't announce for this poor kid. iscooterliberally Sep 2014 #36

I have never seen that web site before lunasun Sep 2014 #72

it is a war of american citizens noiretextatique Sep 2014 #95

Neighbors claim they did not identify themselves? yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #103

It was a condo, and some of the neighbors where actually outside when it all started. iscooterliberally Sep 2014 #109

That's like turning on your blinker only when you've already started changing lanes. winter is coming Sep 2014 #49

Sort of like this incident... xocet Sep 2014 #79

I agree, and the controlled substances act needs to go. The DEA too. n/t iscooterliberally Sep 2014 #31

Couldn't agree more. malthaussen Sep 2014 #41

As far as I am concerned they are illegal. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #56

WTF? SoapBox Sep 2014 #22

Conservatives: "Self-defense is only for white conservatives defending against crimes by minorities" bluestateguy Sep 2014 #27

Even if their only "crime" is having the wrong skin color. nt tblue37 Sep 2014 #48

Coming in thru a WINDOW?? Anyone would suspect a burglar. 7962 Sep 2014 #28

Agreed , my first thought is he probably thought someone was breaking in. cstanleytech Sep 2014 #73

if this goes bad in court, sounds like Presidential Pardon material for sure tomm2thumbs Sep 2014 #34

The president can't pardon people convicted in state court. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #60

Hopefully Separation Sep 2014 #40

When conservative extremes collide: armed citizens vs militarized police n/t Matrosov Sep 2014 #43

You are only permitted to stand your ground onecaliberal Sep 2014 #44

Figures it's Texas. Hulk Sep 2014 #45

Something good happened in Texas today KamaAina Sep 2014 #47

you should have just posted the picture first JI7 Sep 2014 #51

Actually the picture wasn't necessary. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #55

the picture explains why he is being charged JI7 Sep 2014 #58

I understand. My point is that we could have guessed w/o the picture. rhett o rick Sep 2014 #67

Reminds me of this... FiveGoodMen Sep 2014 #57

I really liked that show. It was underappreciated and should have been around longer. corkhead Sep 2014 #86

Yeah, it was good. FiveGoodMen Sep 2014 #90

I'm shocked the guy's alive! BobbyBoring Sep 2014 #62

Police are special people, they don't live by the same rules serfs live by. Rex Sep 2014 #64

Do they record these raids in Texas? If so, who would have the video? Could the defense see it? n/t xocet Sep 2014 #80

The cops are required to share with the defense. christx30 Sep 2014 #89

Something similar almost happened in MN: no-knock raid, homeowner with a shotgun NickB79 Sep 2014 #66

This is SOP GETPLANING Sep 2014 #68

I hope the SPLC and the ACLU jen63 Sep 2014 #71

Where is the NRA? DBoon Sep 2014 #102

You would think. jen63 Sep 2014 #105

Sooooo fucking sick of The War on (Some People with Some) Drugs. kath Sep 2014 #75

Cops make up the "rules" as they go. The homeowners were within their right to shoot these intruders blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #83

Texas, it figures heaven05 Sep 2014 #87

It is imperative that Guy is found innocent. Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #92

you mean Guy...Dinwiddie was the cop who was killed eom noiretextatique Sep 2014 #98

Sorry! Thanks for the correction. Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #100

Breathing while black Elmer S. E. Dump Sep 2014 #94

I hope real justice prevails, PumpkinAle Sep 2014 #99

Well, obviously the guy belongs in jail. krispos42 Sep 2014 #108