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Drew Richards

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20. Maybe this will help...sometimes I am not real clear though...
Thu Apr 12, 2012, 09:27 PM
Apr 2012

Let me see if i can take a stab at it for you.

In a sentence...

A net worth loss to the value of your company due to depreciation ONLY applies if you are a publicly traded company OR if you are SELLING the company and all its assets.

Say you are mining company that is traded on the stock market. (if you are not a public traded company then there is no financial loss from depreciation it is balanced by tax write offs)

Because you are a public company your net worth value is calculated by your production (corporate Net Gains) AND by your inventory which depreciates in value every year.

Because of depreciation on all your heavy equipment there is a direct valuation depreciation on the net worth of your company...But this is virtually written off by two things...

1. the Equipment depreciation tax write off.
2. Tax write off on corporate net loss and depreciation which a LLC SC LC can write off totally for 5 years and partially there after.

This is actually miniscule I mean tiny tiny unless you're an idiot and have no clue how to run a business.

ZEROTH RULE OF BUSINESS.

1. INCORPORATE BEFORE you begin...LLC (limited liability corporation) SC LC to limit you financial libility.

*FIRST RULE OF BUSINESS*.

2. Expect to run in the red for the first 5 years and have the liquid capital to survive those first 5 years while building your business clientel or product to the point of break even.

3. At the 5 year (hopefully) break even point you reinvest capital gains to maximize production for the next two years, and eat or push forward to the next couple years the small depreciation loss.

4. At year 7 you should be a viable company that can write off the devaluation percentage as business and purchase or acquire newer more efficient equipment or personnel to maximize your profitability through new clientel or production.

5. At year 8 you Crush your employees, see them driven before you, to hear the lamentation of their women. (Conan)

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This might be close: The Straight Story Apr 2012 #1
Yes, thats pretty much it. Furthermore... HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #4
ok but Kali Apr 2012 #9
Ok, let's see....try this The Straight Story Apr 2012 #11
Yes, you made cash, but you lost wealth. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #14
and also avoided paying tax on that cash right? Kali Apr 2012 #17
Yes, because the wealth you lost was greater than the cash you made. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #19
But workers can't deduct the value of their "lost wealth" from their taxes, correct? HiPointDem Apr 2012 #42
No. Depreciation is a deduction for businesses. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #45
I run an isolated total cash business quaker bill Apr 2012 #18
that does make some actual sense to me, believe it or not! Kali Apr 2012 #22
if there is depreciation Celebration Apr 2012 #33
would an inheritance of a farm count? (or purchasing an existing business) Kali Apr 2012 #34
why don't you ask him? Celebration Apr 2012 #35
I would think depreciation could be claimed on farm structures. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #46
Trust me. A car costs more as it depreciates. Jamastiene Apr 2012 #31
Welcome to the wonderful world of accounting. sendero Apr 2012 #36
It's the opposite of appreciation panader0 Apr 2012 #2
makes a HELL of a lot more sense Kali Apr 2012 #10
Hah! Best explanation of depreciation EVER! Thanks - n/t coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #51
a tax professional quinnox Apr 2012 #3
No pro here, but I think it means what you got, isn't worth what you paid for it? Thus a loss and freshwest Apr 2012 #5
suppose you have a piece of equipment Celebration Apr 2012 #6
no Kali Apr 2012 #12
yes year four Celebration Apr 2012 #32
This is a pretty good description longship Apr 2012 #26
It's value lost gradually on an item purchased for a business or even personal stuff. Cleita Apr 2012 #7
Depreciation is one of the factors reported on Schedule C (profit or loss from business). enough Apr 2012 #8
or in this case schedule F Kali Apr 2012 #15
It's all a tax dodge but it is how it's done csziggy Apr 2012 #21
I think I get it now Kali Apr 2012 #24
He is also probably getting a lower property tax HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #48
If you had a business and bought a brand new company car worth $30,000.00 Larry Ogg Apr 2012 #13
In terms of business taxes, here's how it works Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #16
Maybe this will help...sometimes I am not real clear though... Drew Richards Apr 2012 #20
I haven't done taxes professionally for about twenty years, but here goes customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #23
I am pretty sure the only assets to be depreciated in this situation are heifers kept to replace old Kali Apr 2012 #25
After all the technical explanations, what you want to know is... TreasonousBastard Apr 2012 #27
oh you nailed it Kali Apr 2012 #30
If you sell the rental, the gain is calculated on the depreciated value taught_me_patience Apr 2012 #38
Hah! LOL - n/t coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #52
Let me cut to the chase, It is a taxpayer supported subsidy to businesses Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #28
It recognizes the difference between things bought for investment and things bought for consumption customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #40
Even your hypothetical cannot make an honest comparison to support your opinion. Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #41
I have to have a car to get to my job. Why can't I deduct depreciation on the car as a business HiPointDem Apr 2012 #43
Transportation to and from work cant be expensed HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #47
In the tax code I'd design, you would customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #50
No it is not dems_rightnow Apr 2012 #44
Lumberjack Jeff, LLC, bought a log truck. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #29
You can have a loss resulting from normal depreciation schedule taught_me_patience Apr 2012 #37
In accrual accounting depreciation is an expense. trackfan Apr 2012 #39
also: it's timing issue, matching revenue with expense ctaylors6 Apr 2012 #49
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