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In reply to the discussion: Washington Election Observer Free To Carry His Gun [View all]etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)13. This speaks to the larger issue of voter intimidation or the potential for intimidation
Noting voting fraud occurs, but has a very low rate of occurrence. Voter intimidation has become a significant problem.
Having a partisan person "standing behind you, holding a gun," he said, could easily be disruptive or intimidating.
http://www.columbian.com/news/2014/sep/19/election-observer-ok-to-wear-gun-open-carry/
Lee Jensen of Battle Ground was serving as an election observer with Halle during the primary elections. Jensen, also a gun owner, exchanged a few words with Halle but didn't mention anything to him about the weapon. No one did. But Jensen said later it was not the right place to bring a gun.
There is a small room off to the side of the main ballot sorting room where ballots rejected by the county machine are scrutinized by three people attempting to decipher the intent of the voter, Jensen said. It's common for an election observer to stand behind them.
Having a partisan person "standing behind you, holding a gun," he said, could easily be disruptive or intimidating.
Despite disagreeing on the issue, both Jensen and Halle said they are in favor of the civil dialogue the incidence has provoked.
Lee Jensen of Battle Ground was serving as an election observer with Halle during the primary elections. Jensen, also a gun owner, exchanged a few words with Halle but didn't mention anything to him about the weapon. No one did. But Jensen said later it was not the right place to bring a gun.
There is a small room off to the side of the main ballot sorting room where ballots rejected by the county machine are scrutinized by three people attempting to decipher the intent of the voter, Jensen said. It's common for an election observer to stand behind them.
Having a partisan person "standing behind you, holding a gun," he said, could easily be disruptive or intimidating.
Despite disagreeing on the issue, both Jensen and Halle said they are in favor of the civil dialogue the incidence has provoked.
Wisconsin elections board upholds ban on observers' use of cameras
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/elections-board-to-reconsider-ban-on-observers-use-of-cameras-b99315058z1-267958261.html
Madison There will be no selfies or any other photos taken by observers at the polls this August.
The state elections board decided Monday to support a rule banning election observers from taking photos and videotaping what happens at the polls, including selfies and photos of family members.
Madison There will be no selfies or any other photos taken by observers at the polls this August.
The state elections board decided Monday to support a rule banning election observers from taking photos and videotaping what happens at the polls, including selfies and photos of family members.
Conservatives Plan to Use Poll Watchers in Mississippi
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/23/us/conservatives-plan-to-use-poll-watchers-in-mississippi.html?_r=0
Elections experts say that under Mississippi law, outside election observers deployed by political action committees would need authorization from the candidate to challenge any votes. But they are allowed to monitor the election an effort that Matthew Steffey, an election law expert at the Mississippi College School of Law, said evokes memories of the civil rights struggles of the states past.
Some folks think this is not really about legal challenges to individual ballots, but about dissuading or in some cases intimidating voters from coming to the polls to begin with, he said.
Election observers proliferate at polls
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/election-observers-proliferate-at-polls/2012/08/24/1452c3ba-ed4f-11e1-
a80b-9f898562d010_story.html
Just being in the poll and having a presence in the polling place is a deterrent, said Cathy Kelleher, a Maryland real estate agent who started poll watching and voter-roll inspection efforts after getting involved with True the Vote in 2011. Were there so people dont try to do anything fishy.
Just being in the poll and having a presence in the polling place is a deterrent, said Cathy Kelleher, a Maryland real estate agent who started poll watching and voter-roll inspection efforts after getting involved with True the Vote in 2011. Were there so people dont try to do anything fishy.
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And we can be assured of a well-reasoned adult discussion about this matter, right?
NYC_SKP
Sep 2014
#6
It's a community standard. In the case of "Wisconsin Poll Watcher Militia", it's a crime, IMO.
NYC_SKP
Sep 2014
#29
Don't you think even ONE person being intimidated at a polling place is too many?
riderinthestorm
Sep 2014
#52
"Wisconsin 'open carry' Poll Watcher militia plans to intimidate African American voters"
riderinthestorm
Sep 2014
#59
From the original source and not "Talking Points Memo", which can be a shit-stirrer....
NYC_SKP
Sep 2014
#37
No need to be defensive. Local is local, and yes, everybody has an opinion and is free to share it.
NYC_SKP
Sep 2014
#42
you do realize that it doesn't take much time to pull a gun from a holster, right?
cali
Sep 2014
#26
I am sick of pro-gun people not understanding that Open Carry helps nothing.....
Logical
Sep 2014
#73
This speaks to the larger issue of voter intimidation or the potential for intimidation
etherealtruth
Sep 2014
#13
Always can count on any topic about guns to prompt calm, respectful discussions
YoungDemCA
Sep 2014
#27
Or, and this was during the count, not during voting, we could hire security or assign LEOs.
NYC_SKP
Sep 2014
#44
Because it alarms some people. Just conceal the fucking gun and stop showing off. nt
Logical
Sep 2014
#67