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etherealtruth

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57. there are many people that do have a problem with it

Sat Sep 20, 2014, 06:07 PM

Sep 2014

... and the act is intimidating. People should be able to vote without intimidation. The absence of your feelings of intimidation are not pertinent

This is related to another thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025563276

A militia group in Wisconsin is planning to target African-American Democrats at polling places in order to suppress the vote and keep Republican governor Scott Walker in office.

The armed “poll watchers” also plan on harassing and following people who they suspect of being wanted on warrants to their homes. The plan seems to be to use the police to intimidate African-Americans into not voting in November’s election.

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/09/18/militia-group-plans-target-african-american-democrats-polling-places-wisconsin.html

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Washington Election Observer Free To Carry His Gun [View all] RandySF Sep 2014 OP

OK by me if he's not a criminal and is allowed to carry. nt NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #1

Yay for mo' gunz mo' gunz mo' gunz. 99Forever Sep 2014 #2

And we can be assured of a well-reasoned adult discussion about this matter, right? NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #6

It's the intimidation factor. cali Sep 2014 #25

It's a community standard. In the case of "Wisconsin Poll Watcher Militia", it's a crime, IMO. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #29

look, I live in Vermont- a very open carry- no license needed place cali Sep 2014 #33

Well nobody would care here Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #34

really. YOU think you have the right to speak for everyone in your area? cali Sep 2014 #39

same as you speaking for everyone in your area Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #48

Don't you think even ONE person being intimidated at a polling place is too many? riderinthestorm Sep 2014 #52

well it was not a polling place Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #53

Sorry but this is part of a larger effort to intimidate riderinthestorm Sep 2014 #55

I disagree Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #56

"Wisconsin 'open carry' Poll Watcher militia plans to intimidate African American voters" riderinthestorm Sep 2014 #59

That is quite different Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #60

How can you possibly know "no one would care?" thucythucy Sep 2014 #81

From the original source and not "Talking Points Memo", which can be a shit-stirrer.... NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #37

first of all, we comment on things that aren't freaking local all the time here. cali Sep 2014 #40

No need to be defensive. Local is local, and yes, everybody has an opinion and is free to share it. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #42

huge issue. Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #3

Childish beyond belief, this country has gone mad randys1 Sep 2014 #4

glad they are following the law Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #5

I am sure that no one will feel intimidated in any way at all... riqster Sep 2014 #7

Sorry, but I don't see the problem here. IronGate Sep 2014 #8

you do realize that it doesn't take much time to pull a gun from a holster, right? cali Sep 2014 #26

I'm well aware of how fast a firearm can be pulled form a holster. IronGate Sep 2014 #28

How do you know he or she is legal? I'm sorry, but madinmaryland Sep 2014 #45

There are several indicators, IronGate Sep 2014 #46

If the person was carrying the gun had a badge indicating madinmaryland Sep 2014 #47

On the flip side, IronGate Sep 2014 #49

That not really Germaine to the debate... madinmaryland Sep 2014 #51

not as much training as you think Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #54

Yes. There is racism in the ranks of law enforcement. madinmaryland Sep 2014 #58

And that explains why you are part of the problem! nt Logical Sep 2014 #65

No, it doesn't. IronGate Sep 2014 #72

I am sick of pro-gun people not understanding that Open Carry helps nothing..... Logical Sep 2014 #73

Well then, you would be wrong. IronGate Sep 2014 #75

Then why say "Sorry, but I don't see the problem here."?? Logical Sep 2014 #76

I don't see a problem, as in IronGate Sep 2014 #85

Just conceal the fucking gun your moron. nt Logical Sep 2014 #9

+1000. nt. IronGate Sep 2014 #10

I agree with that nt Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #11

Yeah. This is local crap, anyway. Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #12

yep Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #21

The bulk of the responses/ conversation in this thread ... etherealtruth Sep 2014 #74

"guns always good" Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #77

It is an attitude etherealtruth Sep 2014 #78

Sorry to hear that is what you think of firearms owners here. Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #79

I would like to believe that is true etherealtruth Sep 2014 #80

"Productivity" seems, over & over, to be keep stirring culture war. Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #83

This speaks to the larger issue of voter intimidation or the potential for intimidation etherealtruth Sep 2014 #13

Then why was issue of voter intimidation not mentioned Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #15

It linked to the full story ... etherealtruth Sep 2014 #16

K... Oktober Sep 2014 #14

Trouble doesn't make an appointment... ileus Sep 2014 #17

Politics and guns Politicalboi Sep 2014 #18

So, when Gerald "Rick" becomes a problem . . . gratuitous Sep 2014 #19

took longer than I thought Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #20

And, of course, the obligatory "penis" reference. IronGate Sep 2014 #22

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar gratuitous Sep 2014 #23

You said "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar"? IronGate Sep 2014 #24

when Gerald "Rick" Halle's causes a problem Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #30

Always can count on any topic about guns to prompt calm, respectful discussions YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #27

Aww. C'mon. It's just a Manly Man fashion statement. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #31

Fuckin' creepy. nt valerief Sep 2014 #32

This is why guns have no place around any polling place: Brigid Sep 2014 #35

we have all paper MFM008 Sep 2014 #36

I'd forgotten about that. Brigid Sep 2014 #41

Or, and this was during the count, not during voting, we could hire security or assign LEOs. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #44

Fuck you NRA. Initech Sep 2014 #38

I don't see any problem Daninmo Sep 2014 #43

I am more worried about distracted drivers also Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #50

there are many people that do have a problem with it etherealtruth Sep 2014 #57

quite different Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #61

Yes and no .... etherealtruth Sep 2014 #62

well as he was not "standing behind you, holding a gun," Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #64

The person involved shared their experience etherealtruth Sep 2014 #68

do you even read my posts? Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #69

Yes I did etherealtruth Sep 2014 #71

If I were a poll worker . . Brigid Sep 2014 #63

I agree and the law should be changed Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #66

Because it alarms some people. Just conceal the fucking gun and stop showing off. nt Logical Sep 2014 #67

That would be a smart thing to do nt Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #70

Liberalism is freedom Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #82

Tolerance ain't supposed to be easy, true 'nuff. Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #84