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DavidG_WI

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105. 4Chan, Something Awful etc...
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 07:42 PM
Sep 2014

And a great many of the trolls there are female. The most active publicly named troll right now is Anita Sarkeesian, Who is playing feminists for fools due to their blind support of her trolling antics, apply a little logic to her claims and the obvious troll becomes painfully obvious. Though you'd know how many female trolls there are if you'd been to the early anti-Scientology protests that where conducted primarily by trolls wearing Guy Fawkes masks.

And if you're going to defend Anita, before you do, go get her game, Depression Quest, off Steam, it's free, play it, it's short, then go look at her reaction to the reviews, which where negative because the game wasn't good and what she then did to attack those that disliked her game. What she's doing is the equivalent of companies suing because you gave them a negative review on Yelp. But unlike Yelp users, most gamers don't just bend over and take it, they retaliate. Que the media getting half the story and running with it because cyber bullying stories of the "poor defenseless female game developer" bring in the fresh eyeballs for ad dollars. Lets just ignore that the death threats are obviously staged by her, how else are you going to get a dozen of them all with perfect grammar and perfectly within Twitter's 140 character limit all within a few seconds of her Twitter posts?

I know full well about the feminist attacks on gaming, they would have a more legitimate bone to pick if thy actually targeted the proper subset of gamers and the crappy games they play, but even there, the don't play with 12 year olds rule still applies.

Kids are sexist and homophobic, because as Donald Glover put it best, they are:



Gamers being over is a joke, the stats for the increase in female gamers show that their primary growth sector has only been in the casual game market for cellphones and tablets. As lucrative as hat market may seem, breaking into it is nigh impossible and avenues to stand out from the crowd are few and far between.

The only part of traditional gaming that is "sloughing off" is the same that is happening to the entire entertainment industry. t' the decentralization of the industry from the major companies, rejection of the middleman publishers and move away from uninspired mass market mega tittles. It's already happened to music, its happening to the movies/TV and its now happening to the gaming industry. With Star Citizen we'll have the first completely indie AAA blockbuster title.

The argument put forth by feminists is that there are "no games made by girls", which is wrong. The fact is that there are no games good enough that people actually want to play them made by women at this time. Nobody is against playing games made by women provided they are actually entertaining.

Really? Wheres the female made equivalent to the best known strong female character in all of gaming, Samus Aran?



As to the writer of your little article, he seems to be confused as to what the conventions actually are, they are trade shows. Every industry has trade shows, attended by people who are there to look at new products and processes and hopefully walk away at the end of the day with a bag of free swag. The only difference with gaming is that with PC gaming at least you can also have a huge multiplayer event like Quakecon that is impossible to arrange otherwise.

The actual culture of gaming is one of nostalgia, storytelling and comradery. Some of the best times I've ever has was hanging out with my friends trying to beat each other in every type of game we had, racing, fighting, strategy, even single player trying to get top score or beat the game the fastest, constant challenge and competition is what brought us together. When we weren't playing against each other we would collaborate on long single player games like Final Fantasy or Breath Of Fire. And no, we weren't all guys, my neighbor and her cousin that used to hng out with her used to hang with us and could throw down with the best of them in fighting and light gun games, she was also the only person we knew that had a Sega Saturn, so she'd school us in games like Virtua Fighter, Virtua Cop as well as non Saturn games like Street Fighter 2 Turbo and even Duck Hunt on NES. She hung out with us so often that she became "one of the guys" and none of us tried to hit on her when we started noticing girls, because we had spent so much time together with her that she seemed more like a sister then anything else. Can't say the same for her cousin that wasn't around us all the time though, I managed to get more then a few dates out of her.

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Disgusting and stupid. They have a future in the NFL or maybe some career that involves guns. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #1
dont let ypur daughters date these guys Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #6
Sick fuckers. nt City Lights Sep 2014 #2
I wonder what they are trying to communicate? ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #3
i cant figure it out Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #4
I guess the way some dipshits' minds work, just mentioning "rape" equals lulz... nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #93
Their parents must be sooooo proud. Let's hope their prospective colleges and msanthrope Sep 2014 #5
doesnt seem like they are trying to communicate an anti rape message Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #7
Oh, I don't know. The University of Dish Washing and Advanced Mopping may have seats for them. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #10
It's the gamer culture daredtowork Sep 2014 #8
What in the wide world of sports are you taking about...? Oktober Sep 2014 #17
There's a line of thinking in SJW circles... LostInAnomie Sep 2014 #19
Well that is just.... dumb... Oktober Sep 2014 #20
Agreed LostInAnomie Sep 2014 #21
As in the dumbest thing I've seen all week.. Oktober Sep 2014 #24
I would argue it's dumb to deny it. daredtowork Sep 2014 #32
The logic gap occurs from... Oktober Sep 2014 #37
Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #38
At least you are willing to admit that you are making it up as you go.... Oktober Sep 2014 #40
Blather on daredtowork Sep 2014 #41
Just to be clear... Oktober Sep 2014 #42
You can continue to split hairs and put yourself on the side of misogyny daredtowork Sep 2014 #44
It's not splitting hairs to point out that you are making stuff up.. Oktober Sep 2014 #48
You think you are Winning Something here when all you are doing is nitpicking daredtowork Sep 2014 #54
That's the cherry on top... Oktober Sep 2014 #66
I take it you are chasing cherries in pac-man? daredtowork Sep 2014 #71
Yawn... Oktober Sep 2014 #76
What makes you think I'm here to "stimulate" you? nt daredtowork Sep 2014 #82
There is certainly no requirement to conduct yourself in an intellectually honest adult manner... Oktober Sep 2014 #84
Wow. You just make this shit up as you go... joeglow3 Sep 2014 #126
I have known many gamers, most of them are not rape apologists Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #50
Don't mix the people up with the culture daredtowork Sep 2014 #57
Gamer culture and rape culture are two different things Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #62
They aren't directly promoting, they are indirectly promoting through trivializing daredtowork Sep 2014 #63
I rarely hear any gamers I know use rape as casual slang Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #68
I'm not against gaming daredtowork Sep 2014 #69
Why single out gamers? Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #75
In my experience that's where it's being most reinforced daredtowork Sep 2014 #80
Gaming is a major cultural source, but it is not the major cultural source Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #85
More mentions of rape minute in gaming daredtowork Sep 2014 #88
Don't you understand? Oktober Sep 2014 #92
Take off your goggles daredtowork Sep 2014 #94
Nailed it... Oktober Sep 2014 #95
You might as well give it up ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #98
I know... Oktober Sep 2014 #109
More mentions of rape per minute? I don't know what games you are talking about Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #101
It's very common daredtowork Sep 2014 #103
If it is so common give me a list of games it appears in Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #104
I'm not going to give you personal info about myself daredtowork Sep 2014 #106
I thought you were actually talking about rape in the games themselves Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #107
Oh hmm - nope, never seen that daredtowork Sep 2014 #110
I think we probably agree on more than we disagree Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #111
Would you agree that daredtowork Sep 2014 #112
I agree to a certain extent Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #113
Thats because... DavidG_WI Sep 2014 #130
Excellent points in first article and a fantasy to think young kids are not being bought the lunasun Sep 2014 #127
Spoken like DavidG_WI Sep 2014 #129
Um, what? DavidG_WI Sep 2014 #128
rape has become our entertainment for our young men. something to consider what we create as a seabeyond Sep 2014 #43
Thanks daredtowork Sep 2014 #45
perfect all the way around. nt seabeyond Sep 2014 #46
Examples DavidG_WI Sep 2014 #131
no. i wont link to videos of rape entertaining men. seabeyond Sep 2014 #132
So you have no argument DavidG_WI Sep 2014 #133
I do not need to link to rape videos to prove they exists seabeyond Sep 2014 #136
Perhaps because they don't... DavidG_WI Sep 2014 #144
No one is going to drag videos of rape entertaining men into this forum for you. JTFrog Sep 2014 #147
Right, because asking for the clips of the TV shows in question... DavidG_WI Sep 2014 #148
You are offensive on so many levels. JTFrog Sep 2014 #149
What the fuck is wrong with someone who would tell another DUer to post rape porn videos. JTFrog Sep 2014 #140
I didn't ask for rape porn DavidG_WI Sep 2014 #142
You told her to post videos. JTFrog Sep 2014 #145
I've... DavidG_WI Sep 2014 #146
Thanks. eom littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #22
It is rife with rape apologists and ugly misogyny. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #47
I am not a gamer.....and its part of the reason.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #51
It's rife with a ton of noisy 12yo dumb shits... LostInAnomie Sep 2014 #52
lots of adults are also arrested adolescents too. alp227 Sep 2014 #55
some game coming out, the makers said no, they were not having naked. and the grown men seabeyond Sep 2014 #56
Yes, that did happen and many of us applauded Bioware for it Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #64
my husband is a gamer. he does not want or need that crap in his games. seabeyond Sep 2014 #114
I am sure your husband and I would see eye to eye on this Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #116
it is important to recognize many many many men are not looking to play in the ugly. i agree. seabeyond Sep 2014 #117
I don't disagree with anything you are saying Bjorn Against Sep 2014 #119
If you seriously believe it's just kids, then that's sad. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #59
Geez, I guess I'll just have to deal with being "sad". LostInAnomie Sep 2014 #61
What the hell are you talking about, broad brushing? NuclearDem Sep 2014 #70
When you say gaming cuture has a huge problem with misogyny it is a broad brush. LostInAnomie Sep 2014 #74
hmm daredtowork Sep 2014 #90
Apparently, reading comprehension is not your strong suit. LostInAnomie Sep 2014 #97
Think in terms of spaces not races daredtowork Sep 2014 #99
Maybe because it IS? alp227 Sep 2014 #53
No, it's not. LostInAnomie Sep 2014 #58
E3 is a general tech expo that attracts a higher end audience, alp227 Sep 2014 #60
Ahhh... so it's poor people that are to blame. LostInAnomie Sep 2014 #65
No, it's anonymity. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #73
Yeah, people in large groups really tend to hold back. LostInAnomie Sep 2014 #78
Nope he thinks he's scoring points daredtowork Sep 2014 #87
This article is the best one I've read daredtowork Sep 2014 #67
Excellent read. thucythucy Sep 2014 #81
That dude hangs out with some fucked up people joeglow3 Sep 2014 #138
Don't play dumb. nt daredtowork Sep 2014 #31
You get my vote for the most ridiculous post of the year. eom MohRokTah Sep 2014 #72
I guess I must be on the gamer "who to troll/grief" list now daredtowork Sep 2014 #77
. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #79
Go spin your wheels on Discussionist. nt daredtowork Sep 2014 #83
Nope, I despise Discussionist. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #96
"gamer culture" DavidG_WI Sep 2014 #86
That would be true if you went online and all you talked to were other avatars of yourself daredtowork Sep 2014 #89
4Chan, Something Awful etc... DavidG_WI Sep 2014 #105
No one is attacking gaming here daredtowork Sep 2014 #108
Then why did you bring it up? DavidG_WI Sep 2014 #118
Thank you for this post. thucythucy Sep 2014 #121
Save for the fact DavidG_WI Sep 2014 #122
Save for the fact thucythucy Sep 2014 #123
This is DavidG_WI Sep 2014 #124
Thank you for the elucidation. thucythucy Sep 2014 #134
I don't DavidG_WI Sep 2014 #139
It's the Harry Potter culture ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #100
Oh I must have missed that part daredtowork Sep 2014 #102
As a 42 year old who has played video games for over 30 years TransitJohn Sep 2014 #150
"deeply regretted the turmoil"? what a crap line. cali Sep 2014 #9
Yup, I knew it. "Some of them are athletes. They're good students." NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #11
Great kids don't joke about rape. n/t radicalliberal Sep 2014 #14
Yup. And as if being an athlete was some sort of endorsement of good character. NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #16
Maybe they meant to spell "Pear"? zappaman Sep 2014 #12
Meanwhile, some (er, many?) people deny there's a rape culture. radicalliberal Sep 2014 #13
Digesting and stupid. Should be suspension. Agschmid Sep 2014 #15
ok so one of them said "Hey guys , you know what would be funny..." KinMd Sep 2014 #18
Epic fail dudes, epic. nt littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #23
not even wal mart wants to hire these knuckleheads...nt alp227 Sep 2014 #25
Young women of America, look at all the great choices for marriage there! freshwest Sep 2014 #26
Why would so many of our young men, boys, across the nation think rape a hoot, seabeyond Sep 2014 #27
Misspelled pear? aikoaiko Sep 2014 #28
It is little shits like this... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2014 #29
I thought this post about "wearing shirts with Rape" was something of a stand against.. BlueJazz Sep 2014 #30
Limbaugh should be finishing up his comments approving them about now n/t IDemo Sep 2014 #33
Their parents must be so proud... Tikki Sep 2014 #34
Looks like they are asking to get raped! Quantess Sep 2014 #35
What rape culture ...? etherealtruth Sep 2014 #36
What exactly is their message, I don't get it. Rex Sep 2014 #39
Some kind of poor attempt to comment on this -- DirkGently Sep 2014 #120
Is it possible that they mean "PEAR" and they simply don't know how to spell? Orrex Sep 2014 #49
That's really W*E*I*R*D ailsagirl Sep 2014 #91
how weird. nt cwydro Sep 2014 #115
I hope the dude with the "G" shirt was late... hexola Sep 2014 #125
I did not think it was possible ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2014 #135
Or the 'D' KamaAina Sep 2014 #143
I was hoping there'd be six others spelling out "STOP" KamaAina Sep 2014 #137
unfortunately no Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #141
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