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it's ridiculously clear that this is a doomed effort cali Sep 2014 #1
It's not about ISIL, it's about taking out Assad, IMHO. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #2
These guys pulled themselves up by their bootstraps CJCRANE Sep 2014 #3
I'm not sure what you're saying. I'm assuming that cali Sep 2014 #4
I don't know what they are. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #5
well, consider that they are taking territory (not whole countries) cali Sep 2014 #6
Well, in that case, I'm thinking... CJCRANE Sep 2014 #11
Not magic. Iraqi army turned ISIL. cheapdate Sep 2014 #10
This is why the actions of Iraq's new Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi are key to any success against Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #31
What happens in Iraq is none of our concern. cheapdate Sep 2014 #7
No, this is precisely why we won't be doing a ground war. TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #8
but it's not pushing them back- with perhaps the exception of Baghdad cali Sep 2014 #9
Not just Baghdad. cheapdate Sep 2014 #13
uh, no. cali Sep 2014 #25
I was careless and mistaken. cheapdate Sep 2014 #27
Bombing has been effective where we have effective ground fighters to hold territory. TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #15
Tell that to Gen. Dempsey, whom Obama is relying on for military advise. morningfog Sep 2014 #12
mission creep is practically a law of "limited action". cali Sep 2014 #14
Special forces, though, not brigades of regular infantry. There is a big difference. TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #16
who knows? Mission creep happens almost inevitably cali Sep 2014 #18
I don't see it. I think we'll do what we can with airstrikes, advisors, spotters, intelligence-- TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #20
history. if you look at history, you'll see it. cali Sep 2014 #21
Well, we'll have to see. I think it will be a long slog. TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #22
Dempsey didn't it limit it that way: morningfog Sep 2014 #23
The Pleasant Fiction of "No Boots on the Ground" WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #17
one of several fictions maintained by supporters cali Sep 2014 #19
Where are the Shiite militia when you need them flamingdem Sep 2014 #24
That is a really good point, few years ago they were such a threat Cheney had a heart transplant. gordianot Sep 2014 #26
America seems unable to pass up an opportunity to step in a pile of shit it created. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #28
What are US ground troops going to do now that is any different from what they did during the years KurtNYC Sep 2014 #29
Fuck that. Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #30
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