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BlindTiresias

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16. Imperial pride

Reply to Scootaloo (Reply #14)

Mon Sep 22, 2014, 12:26 PM

Sep 2014

Westerners are horrified by the prospect that the eastern world may have their number and someday visit upon the west what the west visited upon them for centuries. As a result, you get heated and often vicious denial or reduction of any Asian victory be it the victory of the Vietnamese in liberating their country or the fact we got our asses beat in Korea by a Chinese peasant army. You even see similar reductions against the "less-than-Western" Russians who are characterized as having malfunctioning everything and are so stupid they would easily be beaten by any singular Western army, when history would actually show you that Russia is a graveyard of empires.

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Nobody really knows how many Vietnamese died. Most Americans don’t really care.... [View all] kpete Sep 2014 OP

The urge to be seen as a "Strong Leader" by killing people is bi-partisan. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #1

Wow,powerful writing! janlyn Sep 2014 #2

AU Professor Peter Kuznick often talks about our cluelessness re: Vietnamese casualties RufusTFirefly Sep 2014 #3

For all times the Nazi's are unique in all history. gordianot Sep 2014 #6

I think it is extremely dangerous to consider the Nazis unique. RufusTFirefly Sep 2014 #9

I am speaking of industrial methodolgy not numbers. gordianot Sep 2014 #23

Nazis are not unique BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #15

Oh yes, when americans do it it's "just nature" Scootaloo Sep 2014 #17

Good point BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #22

Infecting the native population with small pox infected blankets is no less genocide. gordianot Sep 2014 #24

Only if genocide was his intent. ieoeja Sep 2014 #27

That's what they all say. GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #30

imagine if you will Adam051188 Sep 2014 #4

it all spins in a circle now edgineered Sep 2014 #10

Same with Iraq malaise Sep 2014 #5

idk Adam051188 Sep 2014 #7

I almost used the same phrase malaise Sep 2014 #8

Brown people....Americans don't care... nt Bigmack Sep 2014 #11

"Those 58,000 Americans died for nothing." Martin Eden Sep 2014 #12

But they can't tell you Mr.Bill Sep 2014 #13

Which is as much nonsense as the hippies themselves claiming to have ended the war Scootaloo Sep 2014 #14

Imperial pride BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #16

The Vietnamese People had a crucial factor in their favor: Martin Eden Sep 2014 #26

Read Nick Turse's book . . FairWinds Sep 2014 #18

Total Bovine Excrement there DustyJoe Sep 2014 #28

KnR chknltl Sep 2014 #19

And blaming some of this Turbineguy Sep 2014 #20

Meanwhile, back in reality ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2014 #21

As one who soldiered in Vietnam . . FairWinds Sep 2014 #25

They were "OTHERS". Iraqis, Syrians & Kurds; Palestinians & Jews. Whether they are killed by us or pampango Sep 2014 #29