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delrem

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9. I can't figure out Turkey!

Mon Sep 22, 2014, 09:38 PM

Sep 2014

Erdogan must be a fucking imbecile. To not see the inevitability of Turkey losing a lot of land to the new country of Kurdistan, coming after the partition of Iraq, Syria, and yes, Turkey.

To say nothing of the fact that you just don't DO THAT to a bordering nation - what Turkey (and Jordan) have been doing to Syria - without the expectation of at least some repercussions.

Not to say that *I'm* against the creation of a country "Kurdistan" or however named. I'm neutral with a strong tendency toward being positive -- with the caveat that I'm far too ignorant to weigh in with an actual argument. Unless I'm missing out on some major non-MSM news sources I haven't noticed that the Kurds have been acting in totally uncivilized and irrational fashion (unlike just about every other actor on the scene, including the USA and its various "coalition in chaos" partners).

Abdullah II of Jordan, that living mockery of a "King", is another whose actions can't be explained without doing some unpleasant pathology

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U.S. and Allies Hit ISIS Targets in Syria - NYT [View all] flamingdem Sep 2014 OP

Friends of Syria, all. Wonderful. nt delrem Sep 2014 #1

Interesting to note that but Turkey isn't there flamingdem Sep 2014 #2

The idea is to take out Syria, then Iran. delrem Sep 2014 #3

I don't think the administration wants to take out Iran flamingdem Sep 2014 #4

Not yet. delrem Sep 2014 #5

True that. But she's not all in flamingdem Sep 2014 #7

Engel is totally embedded. He says nothing that the MIC doesn't want him to say. delrem Sep 2014 #10

Now I know what you meant by embedded on the other thread flamingdem Sep 2014 #12

He's ubiquitous. I'm Canadian and he's ubiquitous *here*, too. delrem Sep 2014 #22

Last week I sat for five hours on a plane next to a guy from Qatar flamingdem Sep 2014 #26

Not "propping up the govt", but "propping up the MIC". delrem Sep 2014 #27

Check out his twitter feed to see if he's mentioning those things but.. flamingdem Sep 2014 #28

Nice to have a discussion with someone reasonable. nt delrem Sep 2014 #29

Check this out - just posted this - Iranian talks with Saudi Arabia may signal thaw in relations flamingdem Sep 2014 #30

Yeah, they're on the list. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #32

Yep. Aerows Sep 2014 #24

Reports on CNN that Turkey is about to jump in also. GGJohn Sep 2014 #6

I agree. It has an element of surprise since the media was saying there flamingdem Sep 2014 #8

I can't figure out Turkey! delrem Sep 2014 #9

Heard a segment on Kurds and Turkey today on NPR, not sure how to find it flamingdem Sep 2014 #13

They hate the Kurds. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #33

A lot of Turkish citizens are Kurds. delrem Sep 2014 #34

Illegal acts of war. morningfog Sep 2014 #11

The UN will be discussing this flamingdem Sep 2014 #14

Retroactive approval? I don't think so. morningfog Sep 2014 #15

I think you're late to the party on this flamingdem Sep 2014 #16

Still, no UN resolution. These are illegal acts. morningfog Sep 2014 #17

Honestly Dwayne Hicks Sep 2014 #18

Isis is illegal too flamingdem Sep 2014 #19

That does not legalize our bombing. morningfog Sep 2014 #20

I see Dwayne Hicks Sep 2014 #21

Under international law, a UN resolution is required unless it is self defense. morningfog Sep 2014 #23

Eh Dwayne Hicks Sep 2014 #25

Bombing Syria, against the express wishes of Syria's president, is illegal. nt delrem Sep 2014 #31