General Discussion

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)

101. Who pays?

Reply to cali (Original post)

Mon Sep 22, 2014, 11:21 PM

Sep 2014

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

148 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

President Obama is massively expanding U.S. Nuclear Weapons: (price tag: 1 trillion bucks) [View all] cali Sep 2014 OP

I find this deeply upsetting and disgusting. cali Sep 2014 #1

Yep drynberg Sep 2014 #24

In a long line of deeply upsetting and disgusting. woo me with science Sep 2014 #121

That's a lot of unemployment $, food assistance, medical care leftstreet Sep 2014 #2

Right on! Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Sep 2014 #3

Only if you include the START ratification that this was the carrot for Recursion Sep 2014 #91

Yeeeehawww! Santa is coming to town! Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #4

Perfect. + about a trillion nationalize the fed Sep 2014 #5

DON'T FORGET, redruddyred Sep 2014 #15

This is not a new tendency of Obama's - truedelphi Sep 2014 #6

Really, just Richard D Sep 2014 #7

clearly, not about you. redruddyred Sep 2014 #13

He's thinking lark Sep 2014 #59

Don't be so harsh. We will be protected from the commies* while we stand in the bread lines. rhett o rick Sep 2014 #8

There is no place for nuclear weapons in this world today WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2014 #9

I think the answer is... SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #18

Golly, I was fixing to buy a bridge from you there for a minute... drynberg Sep 2014 #26

The article says the Obama administration, wondering how much of this was done by Congress uppityperson Sep 2014 #10

haha, nothing is ever done by congress. redruddyred Sep 2014 #12

Zing!!! Initech Sep 2014 #64

Follow the lobbying $$ CentralMass Sep 2014 #49

The modernization program was part of the deal by which the Senate confirmed START Recursion Sep 2014 #90

nuclear weapons are an especially capital intensive. redruddyred Sep 2014 #11

I sometimes think DU is a weird black hole where the year 2010 never happened Recursion Sep 2014 #95

a synonym for oral sex comes to mind... redruddyred Sep 2014 #138

You don't get that? Recursion Sep 2014 #139

no, I don't. redruddyred Sep 2014 #140

START required Senate ratification Recursion Sep 2014 #141

sure. redruddyred Sep 2014 #142

Now this is wasteful government spending! Initech Sep 2014 #14

I've learned not to believe anything the Prez says, because he never follows thru, but does the blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #16

For some people it is enough that he talks the talk. zeemike Sep 2014 #20

Russia announced their intention to modernize expand their nuclear arsenal Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #17

lol. of course you're on board with this. cali Sep 2014 #23

Neither is perpetual outrage. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #27

If they're gonna perpetually perpetuate the nuclear arms race Hissyspit Sep 2014 #97

Says the guy who references Jonathan Turley Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #105

Oh good grief. Hissyspit Sep 2014 #106

I'm with Hissy, what else you got? nt ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2014 #130

Cali, choie Sep 2014 #61

There is no issue LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #137

Waah! It's all Pooty Poot's fault. He made us do it! RufusTFirefly Sep 2014 #25

You're right...Perhaps America should unilaterally disarm and destroy all our nukes Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #34

cute strawman. No one said anything like that. cali Sep 2014 #36

Cute Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #52

are you seriously suggesting that this relatively minor issue cali Sep 2014 #55

33 billion a year over 30 years Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #57

lol. I'll wager I know as much about as you. And plenty of people cali Sep 2014 #65

I read the article Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #68

Do you really believe anything from 60 minutes anymore!? Seriously! Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #62

60 Minutes is dead to me. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #119

I love how she tries to have it both ways. stevenleser Sep 2014 #129

That's funny ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #66

Why stop there? ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2014 #50

Actually we should disarm unilaterally WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2014 #74

+1 progressoid Sep 2014 #124

Completely agree with you. closeupready Sep 2014 #134

Are you fucking serious? CrispyQ Sep 2014 #133

General Colin Powell had called for that, he called Nuclear Weapons Useless. happyslug Sep 2014 #135

Look for the indent in a thread, and there you are. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2014 #67

"Building of new nuclear weapons"? Recursion Sep 2014 #98

A trillion dollars Unknown Beatle Sep 2014 #19

Gee, just what the shrinking middle class needs Jack Rabbit Sep 2014 #21

Um, WHY??? hifiguy Sep 2014 #22

The article says why (hint: Republican opposition to Start Treaty) frazzled Sep 2014 #28

It was the deal he had to cut to get START through the Senate Recursion Sep 2014 #89

Disgusting! So much for "being broke." nt valerief Sep 2014 #29

People, did you expect him to simply disarm the US and sing kumbaya? hardcover Sep 2014 #30

Ugh. SammyWinstonJack Sep 2014 #32

uh, who the puck said anything about disarming? cali Sep 2014 #37

You didnt actually read the article, did you? ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2014 #47

Clearly you didn't ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2014 #58

Oh look another "reality" based Reagan "democrat". ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2014 #71

As of Sept 2013 the USA has SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #70

Things get old, we need to replace those retired warheads. hardcover Sep 2014 #86

Nuclear weapons are not defensive weapons WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2014 #76

Sure they are. They're a deterrent. hardcover Sep 2014 #87

I have to disagree WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2014 #144

... SammyWinstonJack Sep 2014 #31

Funny BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Sep 2014 #38

Yeah I love it BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #41

Exactly! ctsnowman Sep 2014 #145

Up to a trillian over 30 years. eggplant Sep 2014 #35

even Sam Nunn expressed disappointment in this. and no, 300 million plus a year is sure as shit cali Sep 2014 #39

33 billion a year over thirty years, actually BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #40

And that's why I corrected it. eggplant Sep 2014 #42

lol. a few hundred million or a tens of billions, what's the difference? cali Sep 2014 #45

"figures"? Let's not get personal. eggplant Sep 2014 #80

In context BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #48

yikes. thank you. when it comes to numbers like that, I'm so dazed cali Sep 2014 #43

the problem is BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #46

Yep, a republican controlled house will do that. eggplant Sep 2014 #79

I had better stop all that reading for comprehension ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #69

The impact of this on future disarmament is that START got ratified Recursion Sep 2014 #100

Some people get it. eggplant Sep 2014 #131

Dear Mr. President: Paper Roses Sep 2014 #44

Well said, I agree. WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2014 #78

his nobel prize is looking more and more ironic. cali Sep 2014 #51

If this is how Democrats generate enthusiasm for our party, JEB Sep 2014 #53

The more that I hear/see dotymed Sep 2014 #54

Is Obama responding to the nut-job REPUBLICAN darling, PUTIN? randys1 Sep 2014 #56

So much for all that hopey changey stuff KamaAina Sep 2014 #60

It costs a trillion bucks over 30 years? Single payer could save 1.1 trillion bucks in a decade! Efilroft Sul Sep 2014 #63

We have the utterly blatant hypocritical gall locks Sep 2014 #72

no. delrem Sep 2014 #73

No WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2014 #77

No (nt) bigwillq Sep 2014 #83

Sickening. Another betrayal. Scuba Sep 2014 #75

You'd give up START to avoid this spending? Really? Recursion Sep 2014 #99

False choice. Scuba Sep 2014 #107

No, it's not. It was actually the choice Obama faced Recursion Sep 2014 #108

Yes, it is a false choice, your denial notwithstanding. Scuba Sep 2014 #109

I'm going to try this one more time because I respect your posting history Recursion Sep 2014 #112

Are you kidding me? You've not even showed one link between this action and START. Scuba Sep 2014 #113

ROTFL Recursion Sep 2014 #114

So you can't show that START relies on this action and no other choice is available. Got it. Scuba Sep 2014 #115

I did, very clearly Recursion Sep 2014 #116

Nope, not clear at all. Scuba Sep 2014 #117

Yes, in fact I did Recursion Sep 2014 #118

Why lie if you have a good argument? jeff47 Sep 2014 #81

I'm pretty sure this is naders fault Doctor_J Sep 2014 #82

This one's largely Lieberman. Obama needed START ratified Recursion Sep 2014 #92

uh huh Doctor_J Sep 2014 #93

What? Recursion Sep 2014 #94

A trillion here, a trillion there. JEB Sep 2014 #84

But, like, Russia flew near Canada so totally justified. Union Scribe Sep 2014 #85

That was what it took to get the Senate to agree to the 2010 arms reduction treaty with Russia Recursion Sep 2014 #88

So much for campaign promises! How many are left that haven't been broken? sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #96

Who pays? grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #101

We do. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #103

I guess it's time to bring the Neutron Bomb back.... defacto7 Sep 2014 #104

Tom Lehrer - We Will All Go Together When We Go - with intro dipsydoodle Sep 2014 #110

Slavery is NOT dead: it has just become more color-blind. loudsue Sep 2014 #111

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA woo me with science Sep 2014 #120

Not amused :( Lenomsky Sep 2014 #122

Alfred Nobel is rolling in his grave. I suggest ballyhoo Sep 2014 #123

I doubt it. This is right up his alley since Nobel invented dynamite and other explosives. nt stevenleser Sep 2014 #132

To spend a trillion bucks on a nuclear arms update is no less than insanity. ladjf Sep 2014 #125

Looks like a lot of you hippie peaceniks need to grow the fuck up and get with the program!!!11! progressoid Sep 2014 #126

Well, we gotta develop nuclear drones. tclambert Sep 2014 #127

Another view: A trillion bucks is what the health insurance companies are netting every two years Doctor_J Sep 2014 #128

Most of our nuclear deterrent HoosierCowboy Sep 2014 #136

I trust his judgment. FlatStanley Sep 2014 #143

Seems like a bad time for it. davidthegnome Sep 2014 #146

Exactly, David locks Sep 2014 #148

He can come full circle by pronouncing it.. Veganhealedme Sep 2014 #147